On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 12:17:47 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 4/28/2020 6:46 AM, smitra wrote: 
> > On 28-04-2020 02:30, Alan Grayson wrote: 
> >> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 2:01:48 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 1:31:36 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> A lab in Briton has used genetic engineering to jump ahead of 
> >>>> everybody else and has developed a COVID-19 vaccine in record 
> >>>> time. It seems safe in humans and has been shown to work with 
> >>>> rhesus macaque monkeys. Six of the animals were given one shot of 
> >>>> the vaccine and then exposed to very high levels of COVID-19. 
> >>>> Animals that didn't get the vaccine consistently got sick, but 
> >>>> after 28 days all 6 vaccinated monkeys remained healthy. Last week 
> >>>> a Phase 1 clinical trial involving 1,100 humans started and next 
> >>>> month a combined Phase 2 and Phase 3 trial involving 6,000 people 
> >>>> will start, it will be the first time any COVID-19 vaccine is 
> >>>> tested for effectiveness and not just safety. If it works in 
> >>>> humans as well as it does in monkeys (a big IF) we could 
> >>>> manufacture several million doses of the vaccine by September, 
> >>>> much earlier than previously thought. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Keep your fingers crossed, I don't believe that superstition helps 
> >>>> but they say it works even if you don't believe it. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead [1] 
> >>>> 
> >>>> John K Clark. 
> >>> 
> >>> Supposing the most optimistic outcome becomes a reality, will it 
> >>> come soon enough to avoid an economic depression? West Texas 
> >>> Intermediate, a quoted grade of crude oil, is now trading around $13 
> >>> per barrel, way too low for US shale, fracking, and crude producers 
> >>> to avoid bankruptcy. And given the dire effects on small businesses, 
> >>> apartment renters and those holding mortgages, the combined effects 
> >>> of bad debt implies a full blown banking crisis is an ominous near 
> >>> term threat. AG 
> >> 
> >> WTI crude now around $12/barrel, compared to its average price during 
> >> 2019 of about $54/barrel, way too low for any producer, by any method, 
> >> can make a profit, SA being the only exception. I see a major banking 
> >> crisis by summer, or possibly earlier. AG 
> > 
> > An economic depression is rather simple to prevent, precisely because 
> > the while World is affected by this problem. Everyone essentially owes 
> > a debt to everyone else, so you can at least in principle just ignore 
> > all the debts and restart all the business as usual. This then 
> > requires another system to absorb the debts and settle the bills 
> > later, this is essentially what government borrowing to keep business 
> > running and handing out money to people to buy food, achieves. 
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> It's not only a matter of paying debts.  The basis of an economy is 
> production.  If people are not working then things are not being 
> produced.  Handing out money doesn't make food or movies or clothes or 
> toilet paper appear. 
>
> Brent 
>

Handing money to people, perhaps in the form of a guaranteed income, will 
prevent
the demise of small businesses, which employ tens of millions of Americans. 
AG

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