On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 11:02:10 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
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>> *>> If you believe in what's called "evidence", and extrapolating from it 
>>> to create a hypothetical physical theory, can you give a single example of 
>>> something coming from nothing? AG *
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>> *> Two examples. The universe; Dark energy.*
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> Alan Grayson kindly provides us with another example, words, they are not 
> conserved, no matter how many he expells he never runs out of words and 
> most of them pop into existence for no reason whatsoever.
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> John K Clark
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It's obviously an open question whether the universe and dark energy (and 
everything else) came from nothing or something preexisting and possibly 
eternal; obvious to those who can think clearly. That's why I was surprised 
that Bruce would make such a claim, since he's about the clearest thinker 
on these matters that I've the good fortune to have met (online) -- just as 
it's obvious that the UP is a statistical statement, since uncertainty is a 
synonym for *standard deviation*, the definition of which can be easily 
found online or in any text on statistics. BTW, have you found the flaw in 
the "proof" I found online and posted, of the time-energy form of the UP? AG

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