On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:50:43 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 11:02:10 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> *>> If you believe in what's called "evidence", and extrapolating from 
>>>> it to create a hypothetical physical theory, can you give a single example 
>>>> of something coming from nothing? AG *
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>>> *> Two examples. The universe; Dark energy.*
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>> Alan Grayson kindly provides us with another example, words, they are not 
>> conserved, no matter how many he expells he never runs out of words and 
>> most of them pop into existence for no reason whatsoever.
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>> John K Clark
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> It's obviously an open question whether the universe and dark energy (and 
> everything else) came from nothing or something preexisting and possibly 
> eternal; obvious to those who can think clearly. That's why I was surprised 
> that Bruce would make such a claim, since he's about the clearest thinker 
> on these matters that I've the good fortune to have met (online) -- just as 
> it's obvious that the UP is a statistical statement, since uncertainty is a 
> synonym for *standard deviation*, the definition of which can be easily 
> found online or in any text on statistics. BTW, have you found the flaw in 
> the "proof" I found online and posted, of the time-energy form of the UP? AG
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Clark imbecile; have you looked up *standard deviation?* Same as 
*uncertainty*. So much for your *denial* that the UP has nothing to do with 
*ensembles*! AG 

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