On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 4:23:54 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:33 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
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> > *No point in arguing with a dishonest person. AG *
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> I agree, Mr.Carl Sagan co-author.
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>  John K Clark
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There's a simple choice in this matter. Someone who denies that QM has 
postulates from which the HUP is implied, either knows little or nothing 
about QM, or won't acknowledge it due to dishonesty. AG 

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