On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:15:12 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:08 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
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> *>No point in arguing with bias and stupidity.*
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> You're right again Mr.Carl Sagan co-author.
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> John K Clark
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You mean no perfect conic sections as orbits? That's a no-brainer Mr. 
Trumper. AG 

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>> On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 8:09:14 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:43 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> >  *Kepler deduced from measurements that Mars has an elliptical orbit, 
>>>> whereas Newton's law of gravitation implies much more; namely, that they 
>>>> can move in conic sections.*
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>>> If gravity is an inverse square law that follows Newton's rules and if 
>>> there are only 2 massive objects in the universe then you can prove 
>>> mathematically their orbit will follow a path that is a conic section. But 
>>> even if you lived in a universe where Newton was 100% right and Einstein 
>>> was wrong, Mars would not have an elliptical orbit or that of any conic 
>>> section because there are more than 2 massive objects in the universe. And 
>>> of course we know now that gravity does not follow Newton's rules.
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>>> John K Clark
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>> I was expecting this cop-out.  No point in arguing with bias and 
>> stupidity. You're the Trumper of physics. AG
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