On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:31:39 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:15:12 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:08 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *>No point in arguing with bias and stupidity.* >> >> >> You're right again Mr.Carl Sagan co-author. >> >> John K Clark >> > > You mean no perfect conic sections as orbits? That's a no-brainer Mr. > Trumper. AG >
The Mr. Trumper of Physics, aka John Clark, refuses to admit that MATHEMATICS is often applied to the POSTULATES of physics, to give important new insights. For example, using Newton's Law of Gravitation, it was demonstrated, using MATHEMATICS, and starting with that POSTULATE, that planetary orbits are conic sections; a HUGE result! But for Mr. Trumper of Physics, this is not good enough because that result was superceded by GR. Clark reminds me of a Trumper who refuses to admit obvious facts about how physics progresses; and continues to hold the falsified view that physics doesn't use mathematics in the creative way just described. AG > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 8:09:14 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:43 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > *Kepler deduced from measurements that Mars has an elliptical >>>>> orbit, whereas Newton's law of gravitation implies much more; namely, >>>>> that >>>>> they can move in conic sections.* >>>> >>>> >>>> If gravity is an inverse square law that follows Newton's rules and if >>>> there are only 2 massive objects in the universe then you can prove >>>> mathematically their orbit will follow a path that is a conic section. But >>>> even if you lived in a universe where Newton was 100% right and Einstein >>>> was wrong, Mars would not have an elliptical orbit or that of any conic >>>> section because there are more than 2 massive objects in the universe. And >>>> of course we know now that gravity does not follow Newton's rules. >>>> >>>> John K Clark >>>> >>> >>> I was expecting this cop-out. No point in arguing with bias and >>> stupidity. You're the Trumper of physics. AG >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/aaed4a4b-5523-49cb-8110-e221e4ed6a88o%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/aaed4a4b-5523-49cb-8110-e221e4ed6a88o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/93b40c7e-6dad-43d4-b1b8-3bc9ca73c30fo%40googlegroups.com.
