On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
>
> Alan Grayson aka Mr.Carl Sagan co-author wrote:
>
> *> you seem to deliberately ignore the fact that in physics we use 
>> idealized cases to reach important insights.*
>
>
> Far from ignoring it for years I've been trying to convince Bruno that 
> mathematical approximations help us understand physical phenomena but 
> simulations are always simpler than the real physical thing; therefore 
> physics is not an approximation of mathematics but mathematics is an 
> approximation of physics. So physics is more fundamental than mathematics. 
> I mean... if a mathematical model of what the path of a hurricane will do 
> does not conform to what it actually does we don't say the physical 
> hurricane made an error, we say the computer model made an error.
>
> John K Clark
>

The bottom line is this; firstly, that physics DOES have POSTULATES or 
PRINCIPLES as starting points for its theories; and secondly, that 
mathematics is generally used to see the consequences of these postulates 
or principles.  What you claim is simply false, other than the obvious; 
that our models are imperfect. AG

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