I don't think *Michael Shermer* - who  rants on his Twitter feed about 
those who have* "fallen for regressive left's obsession with race" - *is 
like George Carlin. I find him repulsive.

@philipthrift


On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:26:31 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> I like Shermer and his sense of humor in the way that liked George Carlin, 
> with Carlin being the brighter of the two. Beyond this, well maybe mind and 
> spirit are just old fashioned terms by the ancients (DOTA?) for quantum 
> electron dynamics skipping the Planck length? If this is the view, then 
> yeah, everything is material. For philosophy the 'dualism,' ain't 
> Descartes, but close enough for government work, as we say, stateside. 
> Again, we drift into Wittgenstein's semiotics! 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2020 3:41 pm
> Subject: Re: Hegel in a Wired Brain
>
> You haven't by chance attended this course?  
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLRdTugBInz1_8dZtuR7G4jWUYj6yVWUsg&time_continue=1&v=CD8HeoZF9cM&feature=emb_logo
>
> Brent
>
> On 7/27/2020 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 25 Jul 2020, at 19:32, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sounds interesting from an interesting contemporary philosopher. I think 
> (without reading it) that Hegel would be confused at the science we have 
> since discovered, and who would blame him? 150 years later, I suspect 
> Wittgenstein would've picked up on neurobiology-cognitive 
> science-computing, like a shot! This is just my speculation, and thanks for 
> the book notification.
>
>
>
> Hegel missed the Phenomenology of Matter.  Phenomenology of Mind or Spirit 
> is an oxymoron.
>
> Russell and Wittgenstein missed Gödel’s theorem.
>
> Lucas and Penrose missed the key fact that PA, PM, ZF, do *not* miss 
> Gödel’s theorem.
>
> The neuro-study of brain will teach us a lot on the human and mammal 
> intelligence, but not so much about consciousness, as it would be like 
> understanding how deep blue win a chess game by looking at the theory of 
> electronic transistor. 
> Consciousness is a high level semantic fixed point. It is the 
> (arithmetical) truth, when known immediately, which is indubitable and 
> experienced (first person) yet non rationally definable, and non definable 
> without invoking the notion truth or reality. All universal number have it, 
> but it is very plausibly a highly “altered state of consciousness”. It is 
> the initial state before the first differentiation/histories possibles.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Thrift <[email protected]>
> To: Everything List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 5:29 am
> Subject: Hegel in a Wired Brain
>
> Hegel's 250th birtthday is next month.
>
>
> New book:
>
> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48925362-hegel-in-a-wired-brain
>
>
> @philipthrift 
>
>
>

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