On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 00:38, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 6:18 AM Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> *> You could say the “you” is at best ambiguous and at worst meaningless >> in this case.* >> > > Yes, and that means a thought experiment that uses that personal pronoun > and is supposed to clear up confusion regarding personal identity is an > utter failure. > > >> * > But if duplication were commonplace, people would use “you”. * >> > > If duplication were commonplace then the English language would need to > undergo a RADICAL revision, especially in the way it users personal > pronouns. > > > *Most who go through duplication would advise their friends, “don’t bet >> on a prime number, because going on my experience, you are unlikely to get >> it”.* >> > > Who is unlikely to get it? > That is the point: this is how people will talk. “I went through duplication, and I woke up in a little room. I was asked to guess if it was a prime numbered room. Like a fool, I guessed yes. Don’t make the same mistake if you are duplicated! Guess no!” Someone will say that the pronouns do not have the same meaning any more, but so what, you can’t argue with thousands of people, even previous pronoun sceptics, telling the same story. John K Clark > > > > > >> >> > The “you” cannot refer to a magical soul, because such a thing never >>>> existed in the first place. >>> >>> >>> I agree with that but I don't think "you" refers to anything or anyone. >>> Of course all this confusion could be avoided if people would simply stop >>> using personal pronouns in thought experiments that are supposed to make >>> Abstract >>> ideas about personal identity clearer. >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3ZNYGRf-a5c8gOtivFmazq2%2BGmB_CiQ1MuCP743DiMwA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3ZNYGRf-a5c8gOtivFmazq2%2BGmB_CiQ1MuCP743DiMwA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypXKiRrQC6CeLghG5WJY3kfJ0G8CDmyVzXE2n%3DKo4f_nwg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypXKiRrQC6CeLghG5WJY3kfJ0G8CDmyVzXE2n%3DKo4f_nwg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3oWd8B5OTLtF5CnirP6OhEmXBJvwropEHR4Upv%3DaMBaw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3oWd8B5OTLtF5CnirP6OhEmXBJvwropEHR4Upv%3DaMBaw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypX2ywqArHd3DMNY%3D0OLNmj7bL-j1hdsy%3Dd1NrunLD885Q%40mail.gmail.com.
