On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 4:01 pm, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 11:46:35 AM UTC-7 [email protected] > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:54 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> *> So contrary to some who think I know zilch about the MWI, I DO know >>> what world I am in ! It's the world in which I made my bet, and won or >>> lost.* >>> >> >> Assuming 30 seconds elapsed between the time you made your bet and the >> time you won or lost your bet, which of those 30 * (5.39 × 10^44) splits >> that occurred during that time interval is the one that "you" are in? And >> even if by some miracle "you" could tell me which one "you" are in "now" >> that still leaves open the question of if "you" are still in that one >> "now". And if "you" weren't in "that one" how could "you" tell the >> difference? >> >> >>> *> All other ALLEGED world are DERIVATIVE from this one, and I have zero >>> contact* >>> >> >> You keep saying that over and over again, but no matter how many times you >> say it that won't make it true. Every world that exists has had contact >> with each other in the past, they I'll have a common ancestor, they just >> won't have any contact in the future. >> > > How is this implied by the SWE? Isn't this an additional postulate of your > interpretation? AG > It is absolutely implied. Not merely implied. It is quite explicitly the case. Ask literally anyone who understands MWI and they’ll tell you that. > > > >> >> >>> * > Also, since in the race there are exactly 10 possible winners,* >>> >> > No, there are *NOT* exactly 10 winners! There are an astronomical number >> to an astronomical power number horses that won that race with only a >> submicroscopic difference between them, and there are also an astronomical >> number to an astronomical power number of Alan Graysons that won his bet on >> that race. >> > > So instead of all possible outcomes being measured in some other world, we > get a huge, possibly infinite occurrences of all possibilities being > measured. I can regard this as the extra postulate I have been asking > about. It must be additional since it doesn't seem implied by SWE. AG > Again, JC is absolutely correct, and if you don’t understand that, you’ve never even begun to grasp MWI. It is certainly not an additional postulate. It was what I meant when I said I did not know how to begin to correct your horse race story. The multiverse is absolutely unimaginably vast. > >> *> Why not avoid all this confusion and creation of worlds with zero >>> energy sources, and accept that the wf collapses,* >> >> >> Because Schrodinger's Equation says nothing about the wave function >> collapsing and nobody, except for Many Worlds, seems to be able to come >> up with consistent coherent rules to tell us exactly when it collapses >> and when it does not. And if you will not be happy until there is an >> explanation for quantum mechanics that is not confusing and weird then I'm >> afraid you're destined to be unhappy. G >> > > You haven't answered my question; why is this interpretation more > REASONABLE or more CONSISTENT WITH OCCAM'S RAZOR compared to the collapse > hypothesis since gives it gives no clue whatever about the energy sources > required to create these other worlds? It seems to create hugely more > problems than it solves. AG > > Also, how does this interpretation tell us exactly WHEN the SWE collapses > since that occurs when the observer chooses to make the measurement? > Nothing to do with the SWE. All to do with the observer's behavior or > choice. AG > >> >> John K Clark >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/xsl8cSDT4M8/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/34437856-7eb0-49d2-a390-2599970c7420n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/34437856-7eb0-49d2-a390-2599970c7420n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAArMS00Mbo-dAQx0a3%2BpS%2B_OJ%2B-_jSKq2qCSBW8yMtwsqX8kLA%40mail.gmail.com.
