Ha! I will define, however poorly, consciousness being the neuro-sensory condition of any self referencing observer/detector. The neurobiological aspect is of course, naturally subjective. Could non-carbon-water beings, be conscious? Yeah, a robot, a computer, neutron star matter, a matrioshka brain, a Hoyle black cloud, an omega point singularity, a boltzmann brain, whatever...
On Friday, January 22, 2021 Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: #yiv2583474493 #yiv2583474493 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv2583474493 #yiv2583474493 p.yiv2583474493MsoNormal, #yiv2583474493 li.yiv2583474493MsoNormal, #yiv2583474493 div.yiv2583474493MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv2583474493 a:link, #yiv2583474493 span.yiv2583474493MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2583474493 span.yiv2583474493EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv2583474493 .yiv2583474493MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv2583474493 div.yiv2583474493WordSection1 {}#yiv2583474493 [Philip Benjamin] The Arizona work is based on wavefunction collapse by “consciousness” in the conveniently submicroscopic spaces of microtubules. The circular reasoning is too obvious: consciousness collapses wave function which then creates consciousness! Penrose argued that gravitational effects at the quantum level are causing wave functions to collapse automatically, emitting somehow little bursts of consciousness that mysteriously produce (or create) our own continuous experience of being conscious, self-aware, and alive. Nobody here defines what consciousness is. Philip Benjamin From: spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Neural networks, consciousness, and wave functions (Willard L. Miranker) Philip is this different than Penrose's and the prof in Arizona, with microtubules, and they argued with Tegmark over quantum computing versus quantum field? On Thursday, January 21, 2021 Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: two papers by Willard L. Miranker (1932-2011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_L._Miranker Consciousness is an Information Field Induced by Hebbian Dynamics (pdf) https://www.oden.utexas.edu/media/reports/1997/9711.pdf Abstract: We introduce a field of information associated with the action potentials, the latter encoding conventional unconscious neural processing. We show that the field generates a dual representation of the neural processing which mirrors the information states conveyed by the neural circuitry itself. This leads to the claim that the field is the conscious experience of neural processing. An explanation for the fitness advantage of consciousness in evolution comes as a by-product. We start with the Hebbian synapse whose dynamics are interpreted as an atom of awareness, and which is quantified in terms of the signature of the time rate of change of synaptic strength. We show how the information field is built up out of such atomic constituents. The mathematical development shows that consciousness (i.e., the field) arises through a coupling of Russelian-like internal (the dual information field) and external (the primal action potential) properties of matter. This is contrasted with a corresponding duality in quantum mechanics where consciousness itself enters as a causal agent. The model presented is falsifiable, and a method for verifying it experimentally is suggested. A Neural Network Wave Formalism (pdf) https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.594.5921&rep=rep1&type=pdf Abstract: Using his path integral methodology, Feynman derived the constructs of quantum mechanics from the Lagrangian form of Newtonian mechanics. By employing a novel Lagrangian form of the canonical neural network equations, we derive analogously a complete wave formalism for the information transmission in neural networks. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704C669E007EF4BBA7DF151A8A09%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1447620870.4618571.1611441197186%40mail.yahoo.com.
