Brent, understood. No, there is currently nobody on either party involved in 
the benefit of specifically the US middle class. The Republicans involved in 
taking cash donations from the Boards of Directors, are now call RINO's. Which 
has evolved from merely not following the scripts of conservative policy, to 
basically taking bribes from mostly, China-facing corporations. How this 
damages the US as a society may be evidenced in the 2022 election. The dems, 
including the President, his brother, his son Hunter are, (China)  like most 
democrats reliant on funds for which a campaign nowadays cannot be successful. 
The Bidens are far from alone in this. The Bern, back in 2016 and again in 2019 
was taking cash and advice from Ebay founder, Pierre Omidyar. I conclude that 
all the government is an unofficial oligarchy, but so what? A peasant such as 
myself see's behind the curtain that Toto has pulled aside and yeah, the world 
is not changed, The Truth has not set us free, nor, is always turning the other 
cheek, such a workable idea either. 
So what will cause a "correction," in the rule of oligarchs? My suspicion is 
that it will be economic and perhaps China troubles shaking the globalist tree. 
So what do we do? Well, things like AI, Machine Intelligence, 3D Printing, are 
advancing almost daily, a little bit at a time. Thus, we may have an 
opportunity to be able to pull back a bit from centralized authority which as 
of today, appears like it will fail us via a surge of inflation, etc. 
Replacement for the globalist giants may occur because we get forced to do 
without these people and their supply chain. Well will see!


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From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
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 On 6/4/2021 8:17 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 
I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called compromise 
that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment basically scares the 
willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national 
oligarchy  The left is pushing an oligarchy??  Rule by the super-rich, like 
Musk and Koch and Bezos?  I don't think "oligarchy" means what you think it 
means.
 
 Brent
 
 
 against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who voted for 
the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like CRT, and transgenders 
competing in women's sports and online media censorship and the control of 
banks by people who are of a progressive bent. I turn people of a progressive 
bent are really those sort of liberals who seem to be highly tolerant of Soviet 
socialism. Now this is even so, that they are funded by globalist China facing 
corporations. The issue sort of breaks down to the old Union tune which had a 
lyric that went something like that " which side are you on boy, which side are 
you on?" My point in that observation is that we still live in a nation-state 
age we still behave tribally and if we don't other tribes implicitly and 
explicitly will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until something changes in 
the world in which we all must live, something technological I suspect, AI is 
the first thing that jumps to my wee brain, we must dance like the puppets we 
are to the tune that is called by our collective nature's. Governments that 
don't go nationalist at this point in time yes even in the 21st century will 
see themselves kicked out of office at the very least witness what's happening 
in Europe. We must have something that replaces nationalism just as we must 
have something that replaces fossil fuels and switch over while we run things 
concurrently. 
 
 On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
 
     On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
    
  
  > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
obvious functional interpretation.  
 
  I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.   
 
  > The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of 
what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.
  
 
  Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" is 
derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate things, and 
a linguist would also say the derivation of the word "calculus" comes from the 
Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't think having completed a 
study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus exam.  
   
 
>> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
>> manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world 
>> we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember the SALT 
>> talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were about 
>> the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US and 
>> USSR.
 
 

 
 
  > But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well regulated militia 
people had the right to keep and bear frigates.  
 
  True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's certainly 
possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear warhead, so I don't see 
your point. I'm also surprised to hear you bring up the "well regulated 
militia" bit because for years courts have been pretending that line didn't 
exist in the Constitution. The only well regulated militias are state national 
guard units, and only a tiny percentage of the population are members of the 
national guard, but there are more privately owned guns in the US than there 
are people in the country. And even when national guard members are called to 
duty they don't use their personal guns, they use weapons provided by the state.
  
  I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the 
constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a very 
imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are clear, they're 
not stupid, they're just evil.   
   John K Clark      See what's on my new list at  Extropolis  
    
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