John, Chesterton may have been another Oswald Mosley (UK nazi leader pre-war), 
on the udder hand, said the cow, he was never in power, and unlike FDR and 
Churchill, who I still hold as great guys, let the Jews go to toast when they, 
as leaders, could have done a bit more, let us say? Socialists who do mass 
murder are no better than religious people who do mass murder. Can we agree on 
this premise? This was my point when people go off creating their own bonfires, 
accusing the Church folk of barbarity, while not letting the other show drop. 
Hence, same behavior, different motivation. We have our own religions and 
sometimes without a god, let me say, our we make our own.
Meanwhile, as the religious folks inflame your passions, please consider this 
new article from Scientific American regarding 
religion:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychiatry-needs-to-get-right-with-god/



-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jun 17, 2021 6:25 am
Subject: Re: Was, Re: The theology of number, (Now) The Universe Learns (not 
released on April 1st)

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:24 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> One absurdity is that atheists will commit mass murder in the name of world 
> socialism, 

Socialism is an economic system, it is not inherently religious or 
anti-religious, and exactly the same thing could be said about Capitalism. I 
have heard of leaders committing mass murder in the name of Communism (Mao 
Zedong in China) and I've heard of them committing mass murder in the name of 
Capitalism  (Leopold II of Belgium), and I've heard of dictators committing 
mass murder in the name of religion (Torquemada in Spain), but I've never heard 
of a dictator committing mass murder in the name of atheism. 


> "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in 
> nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
-C.K. Chesterton

It's interesting you should pick C.K. Chesterton as your authority, a man noted 
for his antisemitism, he thought Marxism was an instrument of the Jews to 
achieve world domination. And Chesterton hated Capitalism just as much as he 
hated Communism, the nearest I can tell the only thing he didn't hate was a 
Catholic theocracy.  
John K Clark


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