On 7/10/2021 5:35 PM, smitra wrote:
On 11-07-2021 01:05, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 1:18 AM smitra <[email protected]> wrote:

On 10-07-2021 07:58, Bruce Kellett wrote:

Neither of your analyses actually explain the observed behaviour.

It does so, otherwise the experiment would have proven that QM is
invalid.

So, in your opinion, the quantum mechanical analysis given in the
paper is wrong.

It is correct, it's just that your conclusion about the MWI based on that paper is incorrect. Escaping infrared photons and the decoherence this causes are totally irrelevant. Whether or not an interference pattern can be detected is not relevant to the question of whether or not a superposition exists when we know that it exist and it has no decohered. It's just that you then can't reproduce one particular line of evidence for the validity of quantum mechanics in that particular experiment.

If I prepare the state of a particle in a  superposition and let this interact in a certain way, then we know how this state will evolve. If this evolution involves interactions with many particles, then the system will decohere. Then it may be true that we cannot distinguish the state of the system from being in a pure or mixed state in practice due to not being able to conduct an interference experiment involving a very large number of particles, but quantum mechanics still tells us that  the superposition exists and that if we were to conduct the right sort of interference experiment, we would see an interference that would prove that the state is not a mixed state.

But does it exist if part of the information has crossed the Hubble boundary?  Then there is no experiment, even in principle, that would prove the state is not a mixed one.

Brent


Then given that we don't have any experimental evidence to doubt the validity of quantum mechanics, saying that the superposition does not really exists in such a a case, is just silly.

Saibal

Bruce

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