Philip I think you think the non-Christian references will be a Gotcha on the Climate Heater crowd. I say, you can be pagan or communist or hitler-hugging, or wicca dancing, but if one is going to perform engineering, one has to obey observation & measurement. The best way to deal with say, Climate Alarmists is to concede, Yeah it's a big problem. Then ask them how they are going to remediate this problem? If they mumble and fumble, they are probably green die-off fanatics who dream of a green earth without humans. Let the world know that they have no answers only empty slogans. If they propose a technological engineering solution, we need to have a close look at what they are proposing? If they have the machinery to accomplish a trade off from fossil fuels, than its all good. (Huzzah!) We can save the fossil fuel for someday building space elevators and orbital rings. It depends on if we can make graphene or a graphene diamond composite somehow, and somehow cheap? Money to be made upstairs. Maybe attach vast space solar panels to beam microwave down to earth rectenna's? Fix any threat of climate change for sure. I, myself, like the new baby vertical axis wind turbines that produce micropower, but could be built in the hundreds of millions, to collectively supply humanity with an extra boost*. We also need batteries, the most interesting of which (to me) are the new heavy iron batteries which are 10 times cheaper then Elon Musk's Chinese based lithium batteries. *From your buddies in the EU Philip!https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/04/06/could-this-be-the-safest-most-powerful-wind-turbine-in-the-world
-----Original Message----- From: Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2021 3:09 pm Subject: FW: Europeans are smarter than Americans #yiv1706425051 #yiv1706425051 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1706425051 #yiv1706425051 p.yiv1706425051MsoNormal, #yiv1706425051 li.yiv1706425051MsoNormal, #yiv1706425051 div.yiv1706425051MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1706425051 a:link, #yiv1706425051 span.yiv1706425051MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1706425051 p.yiv1706425051MsoListParagraph, #yiv1706425051 li.yiv1706425051MsoListParagraph, #yiv1706425051 div.yiv1706425051MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1706425051 span.yiv1706425051EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv1706425051 .yiv1706425051MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv1706425051 div.yiv1706425051WordSection1 {}#yiv1706425051 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1706425051 ol {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv1706425051 ul {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv1706425051 [Philip Benjamin] Two items for the Marxist-Socialist- Fascist anarchists and alarmists need attention in this “scientific” forum. 1. https://pqed.org/2016/11/psa-yelling-is-not-argument-insults-are-html .... Silencing all oppositions through yelling, labeling, name-calling (“white trash” , “gibberish”, “mental illness”, “idiot” etc.) are symptoms of pagan, kundalini (reptilian, serpentine) un-awakened minds. Post-modern scientists, politicians, psychiatrists and psychologists arenecessarilyprone to such mental illnesses more than the average John & Jane Doe’s in the street!! . 2. Not unrelated to the item above is the IPCC inspired Marxist-anarchist “rumors” on man-made “climate catastrophes”. See https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/island-nations-at-risk-of-climate-extinction-urge-action-to-save-our-very-future/ ; http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/what-is-the-global-volume-of-land-ice-and-how-is-it-changing/ Ice melts to reduce its volume (by about 9%). Only 1/8- th of an iceberg is above the surface of the sea. “Deep ocean warming” and “ice melts” will only RDUCE sea levels!! Land ice ( glaciers and ice sheets) contains the majority of the world’s fresh water and covers about 10 percent of the world’s land area. Every continent except Australia has some land ice. Greenland and Antarctica have the largest quantities. https://www.mvorganizing.org/when-ice-melts-its-volume-is/ However, the Arctic regularly reach 7°C–13°C, and occasionally as much as 20°C during Summer. How can a rise of 1.5 degrees Celsius cause a catastrophe? The Antarctica region is much colder. Green House Effect is in a closed system and has been always GOOD. How can there be a green house effect in an open system of cosmic rays, Ultra violet rays, sun spots etc.? How much CO2 will be critical for that “dangerous effect” and “catastrophes” predicted by GIGO computer models? For every C atom (mass 12) introduced from fossil fuels, 2 O atoms ( 16+ 16 mass units) are removed from the atmosphere. Has there ever been an oxygen depletion? That would be more “catastrophic” than the valuable “heating effect” and “plant exuberance” from CO2. Without a “crisis” global Marxist- anarchism cannot succeed. In the 60’s it was global cooling (Icebergs are coming!). Today it is global warming. Anything that a computer spits out is now “science”. Philip Benjamin Notes: - https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/island-nations-at-risk-of-climate-extinction-urge-action-to-save-our-very-future/“An alliance of 39 coastal and low-lying nations said the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report, was a "major alert for the world," and called on more powerful countries to do all they can to keep global warming to no more than 1.5 degrees Celsius to "save lives and livelihoods. We have to turn this around," Diann Black-Layne, the lead negotiator for the Alliance of Small Island States, said in a statement Monday after the IPCC report was released. …. "Humans do have the power to stop warming pretty quickly and that’s good news. When we stop adding carbon pollution we expect warming to stop. But there are things such as sea level rise that are not reversible. The report saysthe sea level is committed to rise, due to continuing warming of the deep ocean and ice sheet melts….It’s really clear how unfair climate change is," she said. "It’s primarily caused by burning fossil fuels,and it’s a few countries and individuals within countries who burned the majority of it and enjoyed the benefits they provided.” 2. https://pqed.org/2016/11/psa-yelling-is-not-argument-insults-are-html “… In the end, insulting someone is proof of one’s own ignorance. It is a sign that the insulting party has nothing constructive to add and has run out of ideas. Anytime a person insults someone instead of responding to the argument itself, they lose the debate by default. They have given up the moral high ground and will no doubt be disregarded in the future….. Yelling is not an argument; it is a form of violence. Socrates made this point in the very beginning of Plato’s Apology…. Insults are not evidence. In order for a statement to have an impact on an argument, it has to be relevant and provide evidence. It has to bring in new information about the argument or show how existing evidence is logically related….. this is argumentum ad hominem, “argument to the man or person….. Ridicule is not satire. …. But using a meme in response to an argument is to take the discourse out of the realm of conversation and make it solely about being a member of a club. It is a way of signaling to the audience that the person with whom one disagrees isn’t “one of us.” It is a way of calling on others to gang up on the arguer. This too is a form of violence—or at least intimidation….. ” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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