What you're saying LC, is that what I replied in response to John's questioning 
on what I would do or might have done in regards to the 9-11 attacks 20 years 
ago or the Taliban today is unacceptable for you and thus, nonsense. I suspect 
it merely offends your sensibilities, in my case.
On the science related articles I linked to, um, the guys I linked, Prisco and 
Andersen are physicists, Turchin is a Russian futurist writer and cosmist. I 
like their writing, I liked the stuff written by Hans Moravec, Sean Carroll, 
Brian Greene, and your pal Sabine Hossenfelder. I cherry pick what I like or 
find compelling. I'd like physics and cosmology and mathematics to be helpful 
to human species. I don't view scientists as intellectually unassailable in 
their proposals or conclusions. Viewing researchers in such a fashion fashion 
reminds me of the claim of Papal Infallibility by another societal venue.  
Being accurate in physics does not translate axiomatically into being accurate 
in policy decisions. Or what's a Heisenberg for?
https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-sorrows-of-old-werner
Should I throw in Troyfim Lysenko? naw, he was a mere biologist. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2021 7:14 am
Subject: Re: Muslim prayers

This is complete insanity. Most of what spuds and Samiya write is completely 
silliness.
LC

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:16:09 AM UTC-5 Samiya wrote:

For Muslim prayer method and words, please see: 
https://www.icorlando.org/pdfs/How_to_perform_Salaah.pdf 
This might also be of interest: 
Authorised to Fly 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/12/authorised-to-fly.html 
Please note: I am not a scholar, just a Muslim who studies the scriptures. 

On 20-Aug-2021, at 3:51 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:



my only points are:They the Taliban did dig caves in the mountains as 
impregnable forces. So Kaboom.The Pakistani ISI did as policy run weapons to 
the Taliban which are in Western Pakistan. The French, many who sided with 
Hitler after June 1940, wanted their empire to continue. Practically they had 
bled themselves empty during WW1. The Wall of China did work for centuries. So 
did Hadrian's Wall for 400 years. You do know I was suggesting the placing of 
forces in West Pakistan and turn any arms shipments to frags, Kaboom again. 
Vietnam War? I am with you. 
I would have been out for revenge 20 years ago, never nation building. The 
Muslims want Paradise and nations ordered Sharia are the means to further this 
goal. 
Their values are to get past death, and playing foolish games with the Kufar 
(non-Muslims) are secondary, tertiary, quaternary. Your way is preservation, 
theirs's is through faith, for the Christians is Jesus. Mine is, something like 
this, mechanism wise.... 
https://turingchurch.net/the-infrared-memory-of-the-universe-hints-at-future-akashic-physics-3f9a072f0ca6

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dyson-spheres

https://medium.com/the-infinite-universe/quantum-scrambling-could-lead-to-resurrection-of-the-dead-e5cf3e668119

Your way may work (cold preservation) mine is way out past the present and 
relies on human survival (post-human peeps) and a significant budget for the 
Dyson Sphere. Maybe the ancient Egyptians should be revived first? Sun 
worshippers, surely not the Aztecs! 



-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2021 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Afghanistan papers

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:42 PM <[email protected]> wrote:


> Ok, here goes in 2001, I would have simply been out for revenge in the sense 
> of an extermination campaign.

I don't know about that but as much as I hate George W Bush for the Iraq war 
and his mythical "weapons of mass destruction" I can't really blame him for 
going into Afghanistan in 2001, I would've done the same thing and I think 
almost anybody would.   
> I would have used thermobarics to

What's with you and thermobarics? Sometimes it can be a mildly useful weapon 
under very specific circumstances (no wind, confined space, low humidity) but 
it's certainly no world changer.


> the max for a full year to burn them and their supply chain from Pakistan,

 Supply chain? This isn't World War Two, we aren't talking about tanks, fighter 
planes and submarines; the Taliban already have five dollar AK 47s,  25 dollar 
RPGs, improvised explosive devices made with fertilizer and diesel oil, and 
plenty of domestically produced goat cheese, and that and their silly religion 
is all they need.   
> I would have had bases facing Pakistan and the ISI for immediate annihilation.

Immediate annihilation of who? It's been shown historically that fixed military 
bases do not work, General Patton said “Fixed fortifications are monuments to 
man's stupidity". The Great wall of China was a wonderful architectural 
achievement but a failure militarily, so was Hadrian's Wall for the Romans, so 
was Dien Bien Phu and the Maginot line for the French, and Khe Sanh for the 
Americans in 1968.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
tf9
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