That surely is your territory. Having said that, religions like all other human 
pursuits are subject to conscious and unconscious selection. I am in no 
position to criticize as I hold unorthodox views on science and physics as 
well. For me I also try to harvest the sciences for human use. The biphoton 
thing looks interesting, and may lead to assisting with neurobiology, molecular 
biology, perhaps computing, and eventually the discovery of living Exo planets. 
As in "ooh look, the biophotonic spectrum is in the red, along with nitrogen 
and oxygen levels!" Well, maybe.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Sep 24, 2021 7:03 am
Subject: Re: Narcissist Strategies to Sut Down an Arguement

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 12:42:01 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

I think LC should weigh in on this, because he's a quantum guy. He calls 
bullshit on biophotons. I did find a few things on this after doing a search, 
and had heard of biophotons years ago from a UK researcher named JohnJoe 
McFadden. But it didn't help me in my own interests so I bought his books and 
moved forward anyway. I like my physics like I like coffee and alcohol, hard!

Everything Ben writes is completely from the lunatic fringe. I drink coffee, 
but rarely drink alcohol.
LC 
https://johnjoemcfadden.co.uk/Biophotons seems legit to me, although the work 
appears to be driven by biologists rather than LC type physicists. Like 
this-https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/23/5/554/htm
Could a unobserved region of our own solar system be the source -a very feint 
one-of dark matter and especially energy? I am too ignorant to say yes or no. I 
mean there also could be an intelligent but ancient probe from Barnard's Star, 
but unless we have material evidence, it's all just you and I speculating. No, 
I as yet don't know or see Mr. Jesus as the only way to the Father, as your 
team insists. I mean you guys do have emotional stake in that claim, which I 
understand. If he was not who you say was, then what about your families. I 
understand the existential and know it well. If my neck is stiff, it is from 
watching the new administration shift back and forth on their vaunted policies.
I rather like atheist skeptic Shermer's last law (2002) 
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/11150
SOLD!
Narcissism is simply believing that the world revolves around me. What drives 
the progressivists is not narcissism but 'self-righteousness.' I grew up 
expecting religious folks to be self-righteous, and yeah they are. But they 
have nothing compared to the liberals and their Virtue Signaling each other. Go 
team! 
For me, as Bruno accurately pointed out, I am a utilitarian, a pragmatist, 
because I go for species survival as the primo thing. Thus, I shrug off the 
insults because it's just something programmed in via ideology. It comes with 
the territory and the one thing that makes liberals happiest is not merely the 
demise of their ideological opponents, but Loyalty! They adore this. They hated 
the Loyalty Oaths under Joe McCarthy, but by God, they crave it mucho gusto.  

There was a question asked (via a vid) that dealt with machinery. Now can a 
sufficiently sophisticated machine be conscious? What about some other planet 
where crystalline life evolved? Process may be similar, materials not water 
like us. Biophotons involved?
I shrug my Neanderthal or Denisovan massive shoulders and ponder..Spud, the 
raging primordial (Why doth the primordial rage?)


-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Benjamin <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 11:30 am
Subject: Narcissist Strategies to Sut Down an Arguement

 [Philip Benjamin] https://cognitiveheights.com/argument-with-narcissist/ June 
1, 2020 by Aza S Three Phrases to Shut Down an Argument with a Narcissist. ·    
     “Narcissists use all sorts of strategies to get you to become mad and 
frustrated. They love to watch you struggle….You NEVER win with a narcissist ·  
      If you argue, you’re going to be disturbed the whole day ·        You 
might get really angry and give them ammunition ”    From: 
[email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Dark Matter: How 
Physics Overlooks Chemistry? 
On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 3:07:40 PM UTC-5  [Philip Benjamin]         
   
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