I doubt quantum gravitation and consciousness have much to do with each other.
LC On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 7:37:12 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > My thinking is literally we need 'better' equipment to properly answer > either quantum gravity or consciousness. These are surely not > civilizational priorities and so the progress is limited. If CERN or RIKEN, > or Fermilab cannot delve into what a proton yields, then this is where we > are. Neither have we really cranked up machinery to address consciousness. > We're doing better on the neuroscience thing then we have in the past, > because the machinery used until then very recently is way too simple. > Encephalographs + white lab coats just ain't going to produce. For > cosmology, yeah, with better telescopes we detect more granular detail. Or > what's an exo-planet for? > > A deeper question on how to get there is the possibility that machine > intelligence could accelerate discovery and invention? This ought to be a > meta-goal for our species. Medical science and pharmacology is a sure > beneficiary of AI, and thus the human body becomes a beneficiary in this > fashion. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > To: Everything List <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Nov 3, 2021 7:08 pm > Subject: Re: Consciousness research > > > Welcome back Philip. Long time since I heard from you. We really do not > know for sure. Consciousness is something we experience subjectively and > has some elusive nature with objectivity. > > LC > On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 1:11:24 PM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > > “The growing field of AI requires hardware that can host adaptive memory > properties *beyond what is used in today’s computers*,” he added. “We > find that nickel oxide insulators, which historically have been restricted > to academic pursuits, might be interesting candidates to be tested in > future for brain-inspired computers and robotics.” > > Consciousness is beyond what understood to be conventionally > computational. It that sense, it cannot be simulated, it can only be > synthesized. > > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > > Opinion, does this development have any real impact on the subject of > whether a machine can eventually be conscious. This is a paper from Rutgers > and seems to be along the lines of the topic. > > https://www.newswise.com/articles/researchers-find-human-learning-can-be-duplicated-in-solid-matter > > The method seemingly can be imitated. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: Everything List <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Sep 8, 2021 9:10 am > Subject: Re: Consciousness research > > It is never to late, but I guess they remain in the Aristotelian > framework, which makes them impossible to take into account the elementary > consequences of Mechanism in metaphysics. If you can sum up their > approaches or just tell me their basic hypotheses ... In my university, it > too time, but eventually there is a course on consciousness, but only the > "weak problem" is allowed to be researched, which is better than nothing. > > Bruno > > On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:27:03 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78UL1gYhXI > > Four researchers on consciousness who take a operational and scientific > approach and have a program to try to test theories of consciousness. > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/194eef2c-8583-4946-a080-b438bcc1aae2n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/194eef2c-8583-4946-a080-b438bcc1aae2n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/55f03997-2d22-44f1-a1a4-34c3c9e0ab2an%40googlegroups.com.
