On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 9:52 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 5:28 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >*modern collapse theories, such as Flash-GRW, do not have this
>> limitation. There is no observer/observed distinction in such theories, and
>> they can easily accommodate the idea that everything, including the
>> observer, is quantum.*
>>
>
> One thing GRW can't accommodate is Special Relativity, so it's
> inconsistent with observation, so it's not yet a quantum interpretation at
> all, but Many Worlds had no difficulty in accommodating Special Relativity
> from day one. Unlike Many Worlds GRW is not deterministic, it adds a random
> term to Schrodinger's equation that only does 4 things:
>
> 1) It makes the new equation inconsistent with special relativity and thus
> observation.
> 2) It makes an equation that was already very difficult to solve even more
> difficult.
> 3) It makes Schrodinger's equation become nondeterministic.
> 4) It gets rid of those Many Worlds that so many people hate and fear.
>
> Maybe someday GRW Will do better but that would require a complete
> rewrite, and the prospects are not looking good:
>
> Impossibility of extending the Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber model to relativistic
> particles
> <https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.103.042216>
>


Flash-GRW is Lorentz invariant and completely relativistic because it is
based on light cone physics. Getting rid of the determinism of the
Schrodinger equation is a good thing if you want a theory that is going to
predict probabilities.

Bruce

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