On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 09:12, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 4:46 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In the matter duplicating machine thought experiment it is meaningless to >>> ask "what is the probability that you will see city X" because the meaning >>> of the personal pronoun "you" is ambiguous; after the experiment is >>> concluded 2 people in the same world who can talk to each other and to the >>> experimenter both claim to be "you" and one claims he saw city X and the >>> other claims he saw city Y. So the question "what city did you end up >>> seeing?" has no answer because the personal pronoun is ambiguous. By >>> contrast there is no ambiguity at all in the Many Worlds case, "you" is the >>> only person named Stathis Papaioannou that is observable, and I will >>> believe the only Stathis Papaioannou that I can see when he tells me what >>> city he ended up in. But when that same question is asked in the matter >>> duplicating case 2 people with an equally strong claim to be Stathis >>> Papaioannou give contradictory answers to my question, so in the matter >>> duplicating machine case "what is the probability that you will see city X >>> ?" is not a question at all, it's just a string of ASCII characters >>> with a question mark at the end. >>> >> >> > *It's logically possible that we might find a way to meet our copies >> in other worlds, or that duplication experiments could be set up so that >> the copies in the same world could never meet.* >> > > If that ever becomes possible and common (like something out of Rick and > Morty) then English and all other human languages are going to need radical > revisions, especially in the way they use personal pronouns. > > > *or that duplication experiments could be set up so that the copies in >> the same world could never meet.* > > > After the experiment is completed the experimenter will HAVE TO communicate > with BOTH of them, otherwise it's not an experiment at all and would > return zero results. > It's a thought experiment. You are duplicated in two separate places, A and B, and the two copies can never meet, what is your expectation of finding yourself in A or B? This is equivalent to what happens when the world split according to MWI. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypUx_DNxiHc5kxBQZSBymbdmmexPMdk4v9ZKkNtULuXsLQ%40mail.gmail.com.
