On 3/1/2022 12:58 PM, John Clark wrote:
Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
/> Every deterministic theory requires that the universe began in
one and only one very specific initial condition.
/
Incorrect, none of the others demand specificity, none of the others
are picky about initial conditions.
So you're denying that deterministic mechanics are time reversible and
so could be projected back to specific state?
No other cosmological theory needs the universe to start out in one
and only one very specific state for the idea to work, nearly any
state would do. Superdeterminism is unique, no other deterministic
theory, or theory of any sort, requires that the universe began in
one and only one very very very specific initial condition, the only
one that supports their pet theory. If the many world's idea could be
ruled out in some other way nobody in their right mind would propose
an idea as ridiculous as superdeterminism. Nobody!
Nearly all initial conditions would have resulted in a universe that
looked pretty much like this one, but one hyper-rare one won't. There
is one chance in an astronomical^2 number (or more) it did not, and
superdeterministic fans insist that must be the very one it did start
out in because they're desperate to avoid many worlds. Well OK two can
play at that game, maybe despite all the evidence to the contrary,
Fred Hoyle's steady state cosmological theory is correct after all but
the universe started out in the one and only initial condition that
would forever mislead us into thinking it is not. Or maybe the
geocentric theory is correct and everything in the universe really
does rotate around the earth. If the initial conditions were just
right dinosaur bones could have been formed from non-biological
geology less than 4000 years ago, so maybe dinosaurs were never flesh
and blood and never lived more than 66 million years ago. If you
don't like a theory, any theory not just many worlds, all you have to
do is just ignore all the evidence that it's true and claim that the
initial conditions are causing us to be deceived. This way lies madness.
Yes. I said that it would ruin science to adopt it as a theory.
Brent
That which can explain anything, fails to explain at all.
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