On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
> Ok, thanks for your response, AG. You are forecasting that the EU and or > the US and Canada will continue to send, antitank and anti-aircraft > missiles into Ukraine. Are you concerned that this will be successful, even > with a Russian onslaught against the insertion of these into the Ukraine? > Do you see a Russian attempt to wreck NATO countries via a conventional > roll forward as with the Soviets and the Fulda Gap push? The notion that > the demoralized Russian soldiers just stopping the madness on their own, > goes against what the Soviets did in WW2. The NKVD has their own barrage > battalions of troops to ensure that no Russian soldier retreated from the > front line. So why not FSB or GRU troops today? > > Now using Sarin or Tabun or Soman or VX against the Ukrainians would > seemingly be countered by the Ukrainian troops fighting in donated tox > suits, and the strategy would then bring the fighting as quick as possible > to the Russian troops. This, guaranteeing a mix of those fighting protected > versus unprotected. I am suspecting that outside of Spetznaz, most Russian > draftees will no be so protected? > > I will still hold open the possibility of giving Vlad an out, but you > could be totally accurate regarding the Russkie mindset. I am not sure what > circumstances would produce an ouster of Vlad, if such is even conceivable? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Grayson <[email protected]> > To: Everything List <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2022 7:26 pm > Subject: Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule > > > > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > > Hmm. You AG obviously haven't seen the state of education today with its > corrosive, racial, and sexually preferenced faith movements? The > mentioning of the Missiles of October moment and predicting the outcome is > an interesting claim. Me, being a wimp, except when its time to retaliate, > would have demurred from JFK's placing of Jupiter missiles in Turkey. A > provocation, yet what do I call Khrushchev's walling up of Berlin in 1961? > Monday morning quarterbacking is what I do, and today is a monday. For > Putin, as JC has objected to, I'd offer Putin the right to place hypersonic > missiles in "Cuber," ah, Cuba like in 1962. Why? Face saving for Putin > with the Russian establishment and population, in exchange for Ukraine > withdrawal, and a Neutrality agreement, with whomever? > > > This won't work in the present situation. Firstly, Putin will never > willingly withdraw. And it was already tried! Remember the Budapest > Memoranum of 1994? The Russians can't be trusted, and any agreement > allowing any territorial concessions would be Munich 2.0. In this situation > the Russians will regroup and try another day to conquer Ukraine. The only > answer is to continue the fight until the Russians realize that tanks, > towed and self-propelled artillery are obsolete against Javalins, INLAWS, > etc. and counter-battery artillery. Eventually, the Russian soldiers will > become so demoralized that they'll refuse to fight. Putin will likely use > chemical weapons and blame the Ukrainians for their use. But it won't be > decisive, and IMO tactical nukes will probably not be used. AG > I meant NLAW, https://special-ops.org/nlaw-the-ultimate-tank-killer/ I don't think the experience of WW2 is particularly relevant to the current situation where Russia is the invader. AG > > My idea is, how many times can ya kill us, if once suffices? This doesn't > mean we turn the other cheek, and yes since Putin + Xi want an arms race, > we should oblige them. > > Russian, Sarmat (ICBM) and and Khinzal (cruise hypersonic) weapons, also > a pride booster.Yeah, Cub-er! > > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2022/02/08/russia-deploys-hypersonic-missile-to-baltic-in-range-of-nato-capitols/?sh=4401e0be217e > > On the Udder Hand said da Cow... > > > https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/07/us-china-russia-biden-hypersonic-missile-defense-pentagon/ > > I also read a lot from Brian Wang's website Next Big Future for both bio, > med, energy, and weapons, foreign policy goings on. He keeps and eye on > things. But this too, is a reco from an aggressive schmuck as myself, who > looks at things in a nuanced and not necessarily, ideological. Balanced, > no, nuanced, yes. > > > > > Nothing humble about you. Sagan was my boss for 18 months. I never claimed > he was a friend. What university did you attend? I am a Cornell graduate, > School of Arts and Sciences. I had a physics course with Philip Morrison. > During the Cuban Missile Crisis I correctly predicted the outcome, but > still got a "gentleman's" C in my course on International Relations. That's > Cornell (at its worst). AG > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Grayson <[email protected]> > To: Everything List <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2022 1:20 pm > Subject: Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule > > > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:55:56 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 12:46 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *> Any publications? Any degrees? You must have done SOMETHING! Time to > come clean. AG * > > > Nothing special. Unlike you I never cleaned to work at JPL and I was > never best friends with Carl Sagan, I'm just a humble electrical engineer > and bookworm. But at least I know you need to obtain hypersonic speed to > get into orbit, and flying saucer men in Roswell New Mexico do not excite > me. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > > Nothing humble about you. Sagan was my boss for 18 months. I never claimed > he was a friend. What university did you attend? I am a Cornell graduate, > School of Arts and Sciences. I had a physics course with Philip Morrison. > During the Cuban Missile Crisis I correctly predicted the outcome, but > still got a "gentleman's" C in my course on International Relations. That's > Cornell (at its worst). 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