On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 6:50 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: > Beyond my intellectual pay scale Jason. So far, nobody has developed a > Turing passable machine that knocks us down with it's effectiveness to pass > as a human "soul." I would be happy to let humans be human and instead, & > amp up our technological capabilities via machine intelligence. >
It becomes a practical question then, how much can we augment human capabilities while retaining our humanity. If you gave an ant human-level intelligence, how much would remain of its ant-ness? > Thus, making wonderful medicines, and anti-pollution systems, and keep the > conversations from human to human. For neurobiology I suppose I know what I > read. :-( Beyond this, for me it's akin to postulating whether there is a > multiverse and if it is initiated by Everett's MW, or Linde (and company) > Eternal Inflation? > I would say both are initiated by the same source: platonic equations. Eternal inflation is the result of certain satisfactions of GR/QM equations, while Everett's MW is a manifestation of observerhood within an infinite ensemble of indistinguishable situations (which again, I think share a common source in platonic objects, which exist necessarily as denying them leads to contradiction). > > So the other shoe needs to be dropped: Do we get a choice in this? If we > do, can we travel back and forth for trade missions to either clone earths, > or entirely different inhabited worlds unrelated to being copies and > variations? > I don't think that QM will allow this, but simulation will allow us to explore other worlds, and also we might enable trade and interaction between such simulated worlds, when they are not entirely closed off. > If we are conscious do we get a choice with this over that? imitating, via > complex computer processes that imitate or emulate what spindle cells do > might make machinery conscious, maybe? Should this, will this get a budget? > The EU has given over a billion euros to the human brain project, which has the stated goal of simulating the human brain. Jason > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> > To: Everything List <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Sent: Mon, May 2, 2022 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: Is Artificial Life Conscious? > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:39 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < > email@example.com> wrote: > > I had read that spindle cells delineate consciousness, according to > neurobiologists. Anyone see anything different? > > > Spindle neurons are very large cells, with their fibers stretching long > enough to connect distant brain regions. > > I would think then, an equally valid explanation of spindle neurons is > they are a necessary adaptation in any creature with a sufficiently large > brain. > > Since we tend to associate consciousness with complex behaviors, and > complex behaviors are often associated with animals that have large brains, > I think may account for the correlation between the presumed consciousness > of other species and presence of spindle neurons in those species' brains. > > At least, I think this is a reasonable alternative explanation. > > Jason > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUjNiiPu%2B-Zi%2BvbYJt7nmL874jFiAiF5WKvdtViSYY0CXg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUjNiiPu%2B-Zi%2BvbYJt7nmL874jFiAiF5WKvdtViSYY0CXg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUhKasvOZzW4JkPdnRdwaynoGp2DnqSaho1osi-vevZ4tA%40mail.gmail.com.