[Philip benjamin]. "Was" is okay. Abraham "WAS" a pagan. Augustine "WAS" a Greco-Roman- Phoenician pagan. Pagan means Pan-Gaia-n, earth-worshippers, modern environmental fanatic. An "unawakened consciousness" is a natural product. "Awakening" has to be by an extrinsic source. Athenian Mars Hill discourse (Acts 17) gives the clue. Augustinian "transformation" is an example. The historic and historical "Two Great Awakenings" in the American Colonies are other examples. In these instances Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) was the external Source. Those events shaped the Western Civilization. Yoga, TM, Jungian sorceries, occultism, Psycho-Therapy etc. also may eventually lead to a completely different external source, with a completely different outcome. Politicians of all stripes are mostly inclined to the latter pagan techniques. Philip Benjamin
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com <everything-list@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 3:15 PM To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FW: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Is Artificial Life Conscious? On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 3:52 PM Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com<mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Socialist Hitler was a Nordic PAGAN with Ah, your favorite word yet again. Tell me Phillip, is there anybody or anything that was not a PAGAN? John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fg%2Fextropolis&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5256c2ef7b914874a53f08da31f89d1c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637877241101620229%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=fTm4fEJakgTdkG%2BI5YcIRvB8m7Pl8M%2BqiIKYiuQTwLU%3D&reserved=0> qzz yzz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3c%2Buiw5y2RVxZZOf5Ko3_D4Omkn_3r4mLNjrPjDuGfTQ%40mail.gmail.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Feverything-list%2FCAJPayv3c%252Buiw5y2RVxZZOf5Ko3_D4Omkn_3r4mLNjrPjDuGfTQ%2540mail.gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5256c2ef7b914874a53f08da31f89d1c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637877241101620229%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0Ml%2FVTNaqQFH6vRm9dX50cplA9RIBpbFYTNdgjjpIrs%3D&reserved=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SJ0PR14MB5264470D348E78E31B5012C7A8C69%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.