On 13-05-2022 02:50, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 5:57 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

On 12-05-2022 01:36, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:24 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

On 11-05-2022 07:30, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Who proved that the universe was finite?

If it's infinite, one can focus on only the visible part of it.

The visible part is only locally defined -- go to the edge and
there
is another, larger, region.


Yes, but in the end this doesn't really matter due to there only
being
local interactions. After a finite time any finite system can only
interact with a finite number of degrees of freedom in its
environment.

But that does not mean that variables are discrete rather than
continuous.


I agree, not by itself.

If there are only a finite number of states the entire universe
can
be in, then that's also true for observers.

That simply begs the question.


Finite or infinite universe, observers are always finite.

The universe itself is not defined by observers.

The state of the observer can then factor out of the branches the
universe is in.

That is just a meaningless contention. The state of the observer, or
what the observer is aware of, or can or cannot factor out, is
irrelevant to the universe. Reality is not defined by observers.


I fully agree. But this is precisely an argument in favor of the multiverse when applied to the different sectors.

Saibal

Bruce

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