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Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] Re: FW: Ahistorical 'Woke Culture' Is Moses
Vs The Pharaoh Or As Augustin Vs WAMP_the-Ingrate
[Roland]
"So I would venture to say, you should not base your thinking so much on all
the conspiracy theories which like to undermine basic science for various
political reasons because they often don't present the complete picture nor a
true understanding of what is happening. They are driven by fear and
superstition aimed at gaining power or creating fear and confusion for pure
sadistic pleasure and that is hard to defeat."
[Philip Benjamin]
Please specify "conspiracy theories". There is pseudoscience about
"goldilocks" CO2 as culprit for global warming, a Marxist pagan tactics to
"inspire", politicians, housewives and school children to "action" and
anarchy-all with pagan "un-awakened consciousness". What CO2 and H2O vapor does
is clearly demonstrated by true science. There is absolutely no determination
of any threshold quantity of these "innocently' innocuous molecules for
catastrophic climate changes for at least 5000 years of recorded history of
forest fires and 50 years of petroleum fuel burning. What "conspiracy theory"
is that?
Approaching ethno-socio-environmental issues from the perspective 'woke
culture' of death has no historical, philosophic or scientific basis. Instant
Augustinian transformation, Reformation, Puritan Awakening, Wesleyan Revivals,
"The Two Great Awakenings" and their biproducts such as science, technology,
medicine, abolition of slave trade first in history by the vast British Empire,
then in the Non-Sovereign Federation of the Sovereign States of America,
abolition of Sati, and of Foot Binding, universal education, establishment of
hospitals, women's suffrage, abolition of child labor, Lex Rex (of Scottish
Presbyterian minister Samuel Rutherford), so on and so forth are historical
and historic-fully evidential. So much so that even pagan Marxist Stalin with
"un-awakened consciousness" had to coin the term "American Exceptionalism" to
describe such outcomes. Where else could have these originated? Where else DID
NOT these originate? And why?
What is the conspiracy theory in raising that question?
Philip Benjamin
Nonconformist to Marxist, socialist, fascist, pagan gloabalism.
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Subject: [Consciousness-Online] Re: FW: Ahistorical 'Woke Culture' Is Moses Vs
The Pharaoh Or As Augustin Vs WAMP_the-Ingrate
Philip, I believe it was you who are quoted as saying in this post:
Pagan WAMP GIGO computer models will not and cannot give a threshold danger
level of CO2. The greenhouse effect is for a closed system, unlike the open
earth's atmosphere which is subject to all kinds of external causes
(ultraviolet, cosmic rays, solar flares, sunspots etc.). ...
True up to a point, in that the earth's atmosphere is an open system in that
heat from the sun penetrates it and is radiated from it. Radiation from solar
flares is largely dealt with by the earth's magnetic field which can be seen
working in the aurora borealis and ultraviolet light is neutralised by the
ozone layer in the upper atmosphere if we don't destroy it. But all this is a
finely balanced system. I believe that most computer modelling takes these
factors into account. What the modelling is also doing is adding in the effects
that extra carbon dioxide has. The effect of this extra Co2 has might not be a
problem if it were introduced slowly enough so that the system can cope with it.
I believe that it will eventually deal with it. After all the carbon dioxide
being released comes mostly from carbon dioxide that was squirreled away by the
natural system when there was so much of it that the earth was a hot steamy and
humid place. Life has reduced this load by burying it until we have a climate
that is much milder today. You could argue that by releasing it we are only
returning the climate to what it used to be. The problem with all this is it
took millions of years to squirrel it away and we are putting it back in a few
hundreds of years. Hence the problem for all living things on earth because
they will have great difficulty adapting at that speed and many will face
extinction, including us with a bit of luck. (Joke from nature's viewpoint)
... Both CO2 gas and H2O vapor absorb infrared rays, but the H2O is eventually
condensed into liquid water (causing no catastrophic rise in sea levels, from
any meteorology department which is the only division accredited for climate or
weather science).
Again the H20 in the atmosphere that is condensed into liquid comes mostly from
the oceans and ice so it is part of the natural cycle. There is no increase
other than the odd ice comet or vapour released from volcanos. It is also true
that ice displaces more water than liquid water. So floating ice actually
brings the sea level higher. When it melts as temperatures increase sea levels
would drop a bit. It is the ice and snow that is on land which is the problem
because that is not displacing any sea water. So when this melts it will at
first have little effect because it will be putting the water into space that
was originally occupied by ice. It is when you get past the point where all the
space occupied by the ice is filled up that the sea levels start to rise. All
around the world glaciers the Greenland icecap which is on land and not
floating can be observed to be melting. Each year less of the Arctic Ocean is
freezing over. At the moment it is only the very low lying islands that are
noticing the effect. They are mostly in the tropics and I think there is an
effect where the oceans bulge out in depth, as it were, towards the equator due
to the earths spin. So it is not surprising that the low lying tropical coral
islands should notice the effect first. The only reason New York and Florida
are not flooding at the moment is because the sea ice is melting making room
for the extra land ice that is melting. The computer modelling shows there is
more water locked up in ice on land than there is room for in the space
occupied by ice in the oceans. When that point is passed we will start to see
the sea levels rising, possibly quite quickly.
"So I would venture to say, you should not base your thinking so much on all
the conspiracy theories which like to undermine basic science for various
political reasons because they often don't present the complete picture nor a
true understanding of what is happening. They are driven by fear and
superstition aimed at gaining power or creating fear and confusion for pure
sadistic pleasure and that is hard to defeat". Roland
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