Adding on, here. This is a study about Octopi. Dreaming.
We Just Got Even More Evidence That Octopuses Dream, And It Looks Really
Beautiful : ScienceAlert
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 06:14:37 PM EDT, Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/28/2023 11:15 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 4:12 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think sentient includes consciousness, but is broader including perception
and feelings. Does it include self-reflection? empathy?
Great article, thanks for sharing. I also enjoyed the one which this article
was about:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-insects-feel-joy-and-pain/
As for definitions, some use sentience to mean the capacity to feel, while
others lump in self-awareness with sentience. I think the former is more
standard and in line with the original meaning.
As for which word is more inclusive, I think consciousness can in some
respects be considered the most general and inclusive word, its meaning being
simply "having knowledge". Since the knowledge can concern anything (including
things besides knowledge of one's feelings or perceptions), then the word
"consciousness" is the broadest. Sentience would be a subset of consciousness,
and self-awareness, self-reflection, emotions, and empathy would be subclasses
of possible conscious states.
Jason
Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but I attach "consciousness" to the
narrow thoughts as in "Are you conscious of that?" "Did you consciously choose
that?" That top level "stream" of perceptions, narrative, imagination,...
And this inner narrative apparently leaves out so much, which is then
attributed to the subconscious, which does a lot of the work of thinking. And
not only muscle memory of driving your car on a familiar commute, but also real
creativity like the effect named for Poincare when he described how the
solution to a mathematical proof came to him suddenly as he was stepping onto a
bus. A problem he had not thought about consciously for weeks.
At the other extreme is "unconscious" as anesthetized, where apparently all
levels of thought are gone...or is it just not-remembered?
Brent
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