On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:19 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> I am following along the March statement by Ray Kurzweil forecasting a
> first push at human immortality at 2030. For this to occur something
> revolutionary must happen with AI.*
>

Yes.

*>What that seems to be is QC. Does it require QC?*
>

No. When Quantum Computing becomes practical it will make AI's evolve even
faster but it's not necessary for that 2030 date to be true, for the AI
Singularity to occur all that's required is that progress with conventional
AI, which makes no use of Quantum Computing, continue at the same rate as
it has in the last year. But of course if it really is the Singularity that
we're approaching then the rate of progress will not remain constant but
will accelerate. AI is already improving algorithms that humans have
tinkered with over for many decades because the world uses them trillions
of times a day so even a small improvement can make a huge difference; of
course AIs have also made use of these new improved programs, and machines
improving machines is a sign of a positive feedback loop. And it's also a
sign of the Singularity.

>
> *> You would know, and all I would do is make a guess. I think it would be
> a super boost if we combine AI with The Quantum. How soon? *
>

All anybody, including me, can do is make a guess. It's possible that some
roadblock will show up that will retard the evolution of AI, but so far
there's no sign of such a thing, so Kurzweil's prediction that the
Singularity will occur as early as 2030 does not seem like a crazy
prediction to me, although a year ago or even 6 months ago I would've said
it was. As for what will happen after the Singularity I don't know. Yes
human immortality is a possibility, but so is the complete extinction of
the entire human race; and it's impossible to even give odds about which of
those 2 possibilities is more likely. We lack the tools to even make an
educated guess about probabilities; if we could do better it wouldn't be a
Singularity.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
bbt

Time Until Superintelligence: 1-2 Years, or 20?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvU3Dn_8sFI>

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