On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 06:34:23AM -0700, PGC wrote:
> You would think that chess players are capable of some amount of 
> conditional reasoning. "If I poison my opponent, then there'll be all kinds 
> of scrutiny on my person! Including camera footage used against me." But at 
> any level lower than Top 10 or 20 in the world, making a living is very 
> difficult, when they have to pay for travel to tournaments, accommodation 
> etc. while the top guys get everything for free.

Yeah, the story is strange. One would expect that chess players be
more rational. She could not possibly dream of poisoning her way to
the finals, right?

> Thanks for your reply on the LLM subject in the other thread, Tomasz. It 
> does seem to be a bubble from some points of view. At the same time, it 
> seems a matter of national defense for others. 

I am reluctant to call it a "la bulle", even if it quite possibly is
one. But using a word suggests that something less significant had
beed inflated. However, I think that actually there is some
interesting tech burried under the pile of this optimistic-
-pessimistic- -horroristic- -slur. This interesting something could,
with long lasting dedication (say, ten years?) and certain amount of
money (but nowhere as big as what is being inveshted by inveshtors),
could deliver some interesting results. Interesting like, maybe some
kind of progress - better understanding, better processing of Universe
etc. Not in a sense that it would have paid for many yachts.

"La bulle" is a term, I believe, coming from inveshtor-sprache. They
are meat, think like meat, do not care much about progress. They know
how to pump, dump. cashout and run away, so they probably would be
inclined to think of business as something akin to crime rather than
gardening (how does it look, to pump a garden and expect it to deliver
ten or hundred times as much - I say it looks cretinish and garden
will be fuctked). OTOH, perhaps all humanity is like this, just not
everybody has money to perform inveshting. And humanity does not seem
to care too much about progress either.

So even if it could have been prevented from poof...

Also, this is nice summary of where we are at the moment, at least
from my point of view:

[

The future of AI/ML depends on the reality of today – and it's not
pretty

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/27/opinion_ai_ml/

]

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Regards,
Tomasz Rola

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