On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 2:19:42 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 3:57 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:


*>> Even if you ignore Dark Energy and postulate that the Hubble constant 
really is constant, every object a megaparsec away (3.26 million 
light-years) is moving away from us at about 70 kilometers per second. So 
if you try to look at objects a sufficiently large number of megaparsec 
away you will fail to find any because they are moving away from us faster 
than the speed of light.*


>* That was in the past. At present, the universe is expanding at about 70 
km/sec.*


*Galaxies are receding from the Earth at 70 km/sec for EACH megaparsec 
distant from Earth they are. The further from Earth they are, the faster 
they are moving away from us, so if they are far enough away they will be 
moving faster than the speed of light away from us. *


*That's because the initial rate of expansion was HUGE due to inflation, 
and we're just seeing the velocities increasing as we look back in time. 
But if you're right, you should be able to prove it mathematically from the 
geometry. Can you that? AG *


*> You're assuming the universe today is infinite,*


*NO! I said IF the entire universe is infinite today then it was always 
infinite, and IF it was finite 10^-35 seconds after the Big Bang then it's 
still finite today. I also said nobody knows if the entire universe is 
infinite or finite. *
 

*>* *Hubble's law applies to the past, not to the future,*


*What the hell?!  *
* John* K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

hwt


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