On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 12:19 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
* >> Albert Einstein went from understanding precisely nothing in 1879 to >> being the first man to understand General Relativity in 1915, and you knew >> that the human genome only contains 750 megs of information, and yet that >> is enough information to construct an entire human being.* > > *> Also takes certain nourishment and environment, which is not zero > information.* > *Nourishment is not information, and energy will not be a problem for an AI, that's why God made nuclear reactors. * *>> Aaronson: Come on! 256^750,000,000 is vastly greater than the number of >> possibilities one could search through within the lifetime of the universe.* >> *Me: I agree, and yet it's a fact that random mutation and natural >> selection managed to stumble upon it in only about 500 million years. * > > > *> More like 3.5 billion years. * > *If we're talking about intelligence then in the 3.5 billion year history of life the first 3 billion years were irrelevant because during that time there simply wasn't any. It was only about 500 million years ago that multicellular animals came on the scene and anything even vaguely resembling a "brain" evolved that was able to extract information from the environment and use that information to improve the animal's chances of getting its genes into the next generation. * *Oh I suppose you could say that even a single celled creature can move away from something that's too hot or too cold, but if you count that as intelligence then you'd also have to say a thermostat is intelligent. And if you do that then the word starts to lose its meeting. * *> First life evolved then eukaryotic life evolved then...* > *There is certainly no reason for modern software engineers to repeat all of the dead ends, irrelevancies and downright silliness that Evolution dreamed up during the last 3.5 billion years! Evolution is a TERRIBLE engineer, it makes stupid designs (as expected for something involving random mutation) , it's ridiculously slow, and requires gargantuan resources. It's not strictly relevant but Natural Selection is also hideously cruel. * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 5gn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv39NXUgQhRcARcpyb5VL9vTRpHpy89rdLWGXhjthG3yRQ%40mail.gmail.com.
