On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 1:41:16 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 3:14 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> there's a subtle but important difference between coordinate 
transformations, and frame of reference transformations*


*That's very true.  A rank 1 Tensor (a.k.a. * *a vector) is not necessarily 
invariant under changes in the coordinate system, instead it transforms in 
a **specific, consistent way**. For example angular momentum is not 
invariant under coordinate* *translations, but that’s OK because it's a 
feature of the physical situation and is not a sign of inconsistency. 
Changing the origin alters the angular momentum calculation* but t*his is 
physically consistent because angular momentum is inherently tied to the 
reference point. There is no such thing as absolute angular momentum; it 
depends on where you measure it from.*


*With further consideration, I think angular momentum would be invariant 
under a coordinate transformation because where you measure AM from, the 
reference point, won't change in a CT, since points don't move; they just 
get new labels. AG *


*So strictly speaking angular momentum is not a tensor it's a 
pseudo-tensor, or if you prefer a pseudo-vector because it has most of the 
properties of a tensor but not all of them. A true tensor remains unchanged 
under parity inversion (the letter O looks the same in a mirror) but a 
pseudo tensor does not (the letter L does not look the same in a mirror).*

  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

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