@Alan. I didn't say to deduce it from present day science. I said the other 
way around: Go and understand consciousness and then from its functioning 
deduce present day science. Who is stopping you ?

On Sunday 13 October 2024 at 19:20:43 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:

> On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 8:47:55 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> @Alan. You are just being lazy. Who is stopping you from thinking for 
> years about consciousness and deducing from it the present day science ?
>
>  
> *It's occult, that is, hidden, hardly deducible from present day science. 
> I was blessed with the discovery, so don't lecture me. AG *
>
>
> You can make millions by buying bitcoins when is 1$ and selling it when is 
> 10k$.
>
> On Sunday 13 October 2024 at 13:34:28 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
> On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 3:18:24 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> What assumptions are you referring to ?
>
>
> *Read what you wrote about me and cease asking stupid questions. AG*
>
>
> I have no profession, I am an enlightened spirit, I don't waste time with 
> illusions.
>
>
> *So how did you become a millionaire? By twisting in the wind? AG *
>
> *If you were really enlightened, you'd know two things; 1), that 
> consciousness is the core of being and reality, and 2), that its useless in 
> solving any problem.  Consciousness cannot even help us change a tire, much 
> less solve any of the problems being discussed here. AG*
>
>
> On Friday 11 October 2024 at 17:09:01 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 4:48:24 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> @Alan. You want to get to truth by not putting any effort ? Go 5 years in 
> the mountains, think deep, and then you will realize that you will make 
> progress. How else ? How is understanding consciousness different from any 
> other task ? If to understand quantum mechanics you go 4 years through 
> university, what makes you think that when it comes to consciousness you 
> can understand it in an afternoon ?
>
>
> If you're enlightened, why do you make assumptions there's no evidence 
> for? What was your profession in this world of illusions, aka Maya? AG
>
>
> On Friday 11 October 2024 at 12:11:11 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 2:54:40 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> @Alan. You should first become a millionaire like me and then tell me to 
> get a real job, lol. So, what is the point of discussions about 
> hallucinations ? Yes, the chair in front of you doesn't exist. So why do 
> you keep talking about it ? You people are like those from the special 
> hospital that talk that they saw Elvis last night in their room. "Chair, 
> chair! Look, chair! I swear, is a chair! Look! Look! Look!". Yes, little 
> Alan, Elvis is in your room. Now be a good boy and take your pills.
>
>
> You really don't get it. Although I agree with your central claim about 
> consciousness, much too much is hidden, to get anywhere on issues discussed 
> on this mb. Stop being a nuisance! Millionaire or not, you need a real job. 
> AG 
>
>
> On Thursday 10 October 2024 at 22:43:33 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 1:27:23 PM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> All materialists dreams are dead given that consciousness is all there is.
>
>
> *You should get a real job and stop behaving like a nuisance. AG*
>
>
> On Thursday 10 October 2024 at 21:52:38 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 12:36:03 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:20 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *> Does this mean that if someone imagines a thing before it's measured, 
> that it will obey Schrodinger's equation IF it's measured, all those 
> quantum states will exist?*
>
>
> Nope.
>
>
> *Liar, liar, pants on fire. LOL. That's what you wrote. I CAN read 
> English. AG *
>
>
> John K Clark
>
>
>
>

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