On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 8:59 AM PGC <[email protected]> wrote:

*If you read Mr. Lozada's article again I think you'll find he's saying
pretty much what you are saying, he's just using different words. And I
agree with both of you. *

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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The article’s implicit assumption that some sort of "normal sanity"
> governed human affairs before Trump oversimplifies history, downplays the
> recurring cycles of ideological bias, and overlooks the perennial allure of
> comforting delusions over inconvenient truths. The belief in a clear
> boundary between “normal” and “abnormal” political forces rests on a form
> of self-flattering nostalgia—a yearning for an era when rationality and
> consensus allegedly reigned. But if history has taught us anything, it’s
> that every era carries its own bs biases, with prevailing narratives shaped
> less by a commitment to approach unvarnished truths and more by what is
> palatable to the cultural majority.
>
> The article implies that Trump represents a rupture with a saner past, yet
> throughout history, biases toward authority, ideological echo chambers, and
> appealing lies have often outweighed rigorous, ideology-free inquiry. Every
> culture has its blind spots, its rhetorical reflexes, and its tendency to
> elevate arguments from authority, "common sense," or tradition over
> challenging truths. Even in times that might appear more “rational,”
> comfort-driven conformity has played a substantial role in cultural
> self-definition.
>
> Instead of treating Trump’s rise as a stark break from some bygone
> rationalism, a more useful critique would acknowledge that he embodies a
> longstanding tendency; the genuine status quo. Trump's appeal taps into
> this historical penchant for emotionally fueled simplifications and
> authority-driven validation, rather than defying it. If his presidency
> serves as a mirror, it reflects the biases that have shaped not only the
> U.S. but countless societies—a collective tendency to prefer narratives
> that soothe and validate over those that demand critical reflection.
>
> The more pertinent question is whether society can - at least sometimes -
> counterbalance this trend by fostering environments where scientific
> inquiry and genuine self-reflection are prioritized, not obstructed by
> ideological agendas. This approach would focus on reducing the influence of
> “appealing lies” and creating conditions that encourage resilience against
> authoritarian reflexes and self-affirming delusions. Without such efforts,
> Trumpism—or something like it—will likely remain a recurring fixture, part
> of a long pattern of cultures leaning into narratives that prioritize
> emotional comfort over substantive critique.
>
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 1:28:22 PM UTC+1 John Clark wrote:
>
>> Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for
>> free without a subscription.
>>
>> Stop Pretending Trump Is Not Who We Are
>>
>> If we haven’t learned our lesson now, when will we learn it?
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opinion/trump-wins-harris-loses.html?unlocked_article_code=1.X04.UuhN.7i7ig43sa-VO&smid=em-share
>>
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