On 12/28/2024 5:00 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:

    On 12/28/2024 3:45 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:

    Do you know how the SR problem is stated, I mean really know? It's
    like this; you have a car and a *garage, with the car longer than
    the garage. Can you use SR to make the car fit in the garage?
    Well, of course. All that's required is to speed the car to a
    velocity which, from the frame of the car, contracts the garage
    sufficiently to get it to fit.
    *
    That's not even a correct statement of the paradox. You make the
    car fit the the garage /*in the garage frame*/ by speeding the car
    up so the car is Lorentz contracted (I really liked the original
    tank trap version better).
    *

    Problem solved, or so it appears. The various self appointed
    experts and gurus have an allegedly better solution, but
    ostensibly somewhat more complicated. Instead of considering
    length contraction of the garage, they apply the disagreement
    about simultaneity to show the car won't fit from the pov of the
    car frame, but does fit from the pov of the garage frame. So, as
    you should be able to comprehend, both methods give the SAME
    result! So where is the paradox?*

    *Truly, it resides in the more-or-less unstated assumption, that
    there exists an OBJECTIVE reality which precludes this result;
    that the car fits in the garage frame, but doesn't fit in the car
    frame. *
    It's not only unstated, it's un-assumed and non-existent. It's no
    one's version of the paradox...much less "objective reality". 
    Rather it is Grayson's imagined reality.

    Brent


*How about revealing YOUR version of the paradox? Cat got your tongue? AG
*
I've both explained it and diagrammed it.  As Oliver Heaviside said, "I've given you an argument.  I'm not obliged to give you an understanding."

Brent

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