AG, your tantrum-laden diatribes are as tiresome as they are pointless. You swing between dismissing simultaneity and grudgingly admitting its necessity, while spewing insults to cover for your inability to engage with the actual physics.
Let’s get this straight: simultaneity is not optional if you want to resolve the apparent paradox. It’s embedded in the LT and explicitly explains why the frames disagree. Your attempts to dismiss explanations because they lack "calculations" are just another way to avoid addressing the core issue—you’re more interested in arguing than understanding. You claim to value your "precious time," yet you waste it hurling insults and revisiting points that have already been explained. If you’re planning to read David Bohm’s book, great—maybe you’ll finally get a grasp of the basic principles of SR. Until then, stop pretending your half-baked arguments and vitriol make you anything other than the troll you insist you’re not. Le ven. 10 janv. 2025, 16:51, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 8:34:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 8:21:33 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 8:04:43 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 9:49 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *> **if you believe in the LT, you can establish the car doesn't fit from > the pov of the car frame, so if you believe in SR, you have to conclude > that if such pictures could be taken, they could NOT be simultaneous. AG * > > > *Then what are we arguing about? * > > > There are no pictures taken simultaneity, I've never seen such pictures, > so what the F were you alleging about what I've seen? But if you believe in > SR and the LR, you have to conclude the car won't fit in car frame. The > problem with invoking disagreement with simultaneity is that the morons who > assert it just say the words, as if that's enough, but rarely if ever do > they do any calculation to prove the key point; the time change of events > in the car frame which would show no contradiction, no paradox. AG > > > At some point in this discussion I tried to use the Bird's Eye Observer to > determine if the views from both frames were simultaneous, but I gave it up > because I couldn't determine that such an observer (assuming the garage has > no roof) could be distinguished from the garage observer. I think now that > using simultaneity is necessary to show a paradox does not exist, but I > never thought kindly on mere claims without proofs based on calculations. > Using just the LT leaves open the possibility that SR and the LT are > flawed. AG > > > FYI, a while back, when the chief asshole claimed an analysis of > simultaneity solved the problem, I repeated stated that merely writing that > was insufficient, more must be done in order to prove something that showed > no paradox. But all that asshole could do was to repeat the claim, several > times. I have David Bohm's book on SR. I plan to see if he shows how the > calculation is done. For any asshole who claims I am a troll, I have this > to say; do you really think you're so important that I would waste my > precious time proving anything to you? The one exception is you, Clark. I > continue to ask about your ADDITIONAL POSTULATE to S's equation, that > everything that CAN happen, MUST happen. Please; no BS that you answered > this question many times. That would be a flat-out lie used in defense of > the cult. AG > > > *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > twa > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/32446711-e03a-445c-bf7f-515d4031bebcn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/32446711-e03a-445c-bf7f-515d4031bebcn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kAouoTZKBm6W1j8-0jGmzgPyCZ5oP%2Bzne3AZ-DgokTT4%3Dg%40mail.gmail.com.
