AG, once again, you’re twisting the discussion to manufacture a false contradiction. Both points are compatible within the framework of relativity if you understand the basic principles.
1. Brent’s point: Fitting and not fitting occur at the same time in their respective frames. This is true because each frame applies its own simultaneity to determine when the events align. The disagreement arises precisely because of the relativity of simultaneity. 2. Clark’s point: The car fits in one frame and not in the other because simultaneity shifts the alignment of events between frames. This is the resolution of the paradox: the frames disagree because their definitions of "simultaneous" differ. These are two sides of the same coin. Brent describes the observation within each frame, while Clark explains why the disagreement exists. If you think they contradict each other, that’s on you for misunderstanding how simultaneity works—not on them. Instead of continuing to nitpick and troll, maybe focus on understanding relativity for what it is. The paradox has been resolved repeatedly—you’re the only one still confused. Le mer. 15 janv. 2025, 09:04, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 12:56:01 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, your endless cycle of insults, condescension, and pointless questions > does nothing to hide the fact that you’ve failed to contribute anything > meaningful. Whether I graduated from college or not doesn’t change the > reality: you don’t understand the very concepts you’re arguing about and > have spent this entire discussion dodging explanations and projecting your > insecurities onto others. > > If you genuinely believe Brent, Clark, and I disagree, it’s only because > you lack the comprehension to follow the arguments. The cause of the > so-called paradox and its resolution have been clearly explained multiple > times. You’ve chosen to ignore or twist those explanations to fit your > narrative, which is classic trolling behavior. > > If this is truly your "last time," then good riddance. But let’s not > pretend your parting shot is anything other than another empty attempt to > deflect from your own inability to engage in good faith. > > > Reading plain English is easy; Brent now says fitting and not fitting > occur at the same time, whereas Clark says they don't and that's the > resolution of the paradox by applying disagreement about simultaneity. > Which expert do you agree with? AG > > > > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2025, 08:43, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 12:31:31 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, your attempts to shift blame and play the victim are as predictable as > they are tiresome. Let’s get a few things straight. > > First, changing your mind isn’t the issue—it’s your constant refusal to > acknowledge explanations, your endless insults, and your bad faith > throughout the discussion. You didn’t just change your mind; you repeatedly > dismissed valid points, only to later parrot them back as if they were your > own revelations. > > Second, accusing others of mental illness while lacing every response with > personal attacks isn’t just hypocritical—it’s pathetic. You’ve spent more > time throwing tantrums and dodging accountability than actually discussing > the topic. If you can’t handle criticism, that’s on you, not anyone else. > > Third, waving your "achievements" around—imaginary or not—while insulting > others’ supposed lack of them is irrelevant and desperate. Arguments stand > or fall on their own merit, and yours have consistently fallen apart under > scrutiny. > > Finally, calling others "pricks" or "assholes" doesn’t make you look > strong or justified; it just highlights your inability to engage in a > mature, constructive manner. If you truly believe in the importance of > professional and intellectual respect, maybe try demonstrating some for > once. Until then, your behavior speaks for itself. > > > *I'll say it again, for the last time; you're hopelessly deluded. About > those arguments about simultaneity; you, Brent and Clark seem to disagree > about the cause of the paradox and its resolution. Any professional > achievements? Did you graduate from college? AG * > > > > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2025, 08:28, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 11:05:21 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, waving around your supposed "three degrees" doesn’t make your > arguments any less flawed or your behavior any less trollish. If those > degrees are real, they clearly didn’t include lessons on humility, logic, > or how to engage in productive discussion. > > Your backpedaling on simultaneity yet again shows you’re either incapable > of following the reasoning or deliberately stirring the pot. The car > fitting in one frame and not in another isn’t "troublesome" or "odd"—it’s a > direct and perfectly explained consequence of the relativity of > simultaneity. If you still find it confusing, the problem isn’t with > relativity; it’s with your refusal to listen. > > Stop using your imaginary academic credentials as a shield for bad > arguments. Degrees don’t mean anything if you keep proving you didn’t learn > the basics. Focus on understanding instead of trolling—it might save what > little credibility you have left. > > > *Did you notice? Now Brent and Clark (and YOU!) apparently disagree on > what simultaneity establishes. BTW, usually someone mentally ill, like you, > can't do any deep self diagnosis and doesn't realize how iil they are. > Example; your use of "backpedaling" is a symptom of paranoia. I just > changed my mind at some point in the discussion. That was it. Nothing more. > I doubt you will able to see this simple fact. And it is simple and true. > it was your paranoia and abuse that produced the type of behavior on my > part that you complain about. I might have been mistaken on the issue > discussed, though now the experts seem to disagree, but I am not a fool and > I don't suffer fools like you lightly. It really takes a lot of abuse from > someone, for me to call that someone a prick/asshole, but you deserve it. > BTW2, do you have any professional achievements, any? Mine aren't > imaginary. And nowhere did I use them to support any arguments I make, good > or bad ones. AG * > > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2025, 00:28, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 2:52:18 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 2:36:44 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > What a fun thing to witness, a troll fighting another troll... each one > believing they are sane, rational and genius. 🤣 > > > Do you have any professional achievements? Can you offer at least one? AG > > > *Any university degrees? I have three. BTW, I'm not completely convinced > that simultaneity solves the parking paradox. While it's true that the car > can't fit and not fit simultaneously, it's still troublesome that it can > fit and not fit at different times. I believe Clark thinks this is an "odd > situation". It certainly is and demands more thought. AG * > > > Le mar. 14 janv. 2025, 22:34, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > If you really were conscious, you'd realize how stupid is your post. You > know nothing of anyone's personal life, or sex life, so if you were > minimally conscious you'd cease this foolishness. 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