On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 11:16:37 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 7:58 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

* > **we still have two frames, each predicting the same thing internally 
-- car fits in garage frame, but doesn't fit in car frame -- which 
presumably Clark calls "odd", which is his limited admission that something 
here is awry. AGg*


*I admit a lot of stuff happens that I would call "odd" when you start to 
approach the speed of light, or when gravity becomes ridiculously strong, 
or when things become ridiculously small, because they are well outside my 
everyday experience, but none of them produce a logical self-contradiction, 
and that is what you need for a paradox.  It's possible that nature may be 
stranger than we think, it might even be stranger than we can think, but I 
am confident it is not logically self-contradictory.*


*  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


*Not sure what "logically self-contradictory" means in this context. But 
when the car can repeatly fail to fit in one frame, yet always fit in 
another frame, that might satisfy any definition you can come up with. Like 
I said; for me it's a bridge too far, but I don't expect or demand that 
anyone agrees with me. AG *

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