On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 6:54 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 3:45:10 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 4:15 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 12:42:14 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Why this has to continue ? What a waste of energy for a result well known, > it will loop back again, trolls not only destroy a good mailing list, they > destroy earth by wasting energy for useless childish problems resolved 120 > years ago. > > > *IMO, what you're relying on is a pseudo solution. How does the > non-simultaneity in the car frame, of two simultaneous events in the garage > frame, resolve the paradox? AG * > > > You just keep asking this question over and over, and never really > addressing the answer I give you--the "paradox" is just the apparent danger > that differences in opinions about fitting might lead to differences in > predictions about local physical events, and the relativity of simultaneity > is key to seeing how frames which disagree about fitting can nevertheless > agree about all local physical events. > > Jesse > > > *I don't agree with your answer. There's more to it than you claim. AG * > My answer is about what physicists mean by the garage/barn "paradox", and why *they* consider it to be resolved by considerations related to the relativity of simultaneity. I get the impression you might acknowledge that this sort of argument does resolve the issue of how different frames can avoid contradictory predictions about local physical facts, but you think there is some further problem with the idea of the car fitting in one frame but not another. But it seems like your reason for thinking there's a further problem is just that it seems counterintuitive in some way, and you haven't really explained why you *don't* think there is a similar problem with other frame-dependent differences, like the fact that A's velocity can be larger than B's in one frame but smaller than B's in a different frame. Jesse -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAPCWU3LoU3isdZ%3Dm1sLQ%2BbeU0kyp56JTwDJFM35-FVnx%2Btweqg%40mail.gmail.com.
