On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 4:19:30 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:

I never conjectured it was originally a black hole. 


And neither did I claim you conjectured as such. Rather, you asserted that 
the universe could have begun as spatially infinite (if, as I claimed, it 
couldn't have become spatially infinite if it has a finite age). AG
 

Models of the origin of the universe, like FLRW, have the nascent universe 
at extremely high temperature, uniform, and expanding very rapidly,


So it must have begun as spatially very small, or perhaps having zero 
volume? AG 


Brent



On 2/8/2025 6:23 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:

If we run the clock backward in time, the universe becomes progressively 
denser as the average distance between galaxies decreases. So if it becomes 
a BH, it seems highly unlikely it started out infinite in spatial extent, 
which is what you and Brent conjectured. AG 


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