On 2/14/2025 7:44 AM, '[email protected]' via Everything List wrote:
Ok, thanks, JC. Smart and conscious seem to be a Venn Diagram for me. A science book is not smart, but the author who wrote it certainly is conscious and smart.

Thx.

On Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 08:15:09 PM EST, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:



*I agree. I don't see how any serious person could say that these AI's are not conscious, they're certainly smart as hell!
*
*Consciousness isn't a single thing.  There's consciousness OF different kinds of things.  These AI's are probably not conscious of their location.  They're not conscious of tactile or kinematic sensations.  They don't have a body to be conscious OF, although they may hallucinate one.  I doubt they experience many common emotions such as lust.  I'm not sure how they are self-conscious.

Brent*

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