On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 6:54 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

*>> If you need probabilities then the Born Rule is the only way to go, but
>> Schrodinger's Equation is deterministic so what physical reason requires
>> the use of probabilities at all? Self-locational uncertainty.*
>
>

*> But that's just a catch phrase,*
>

*If you want a phrase to turn into a catch phrase truth may not be an
absolute requirement but it is certainly helpful.  *

*> unless it means self-location occurs satisfying the Born rule; in which
> case it contributes nothing new.*
>

*When Schrodinger presented his equation to the world everybody knew it
made mathematical sense, but how do you translate the mathematical terms in
it to physical terms so that it made physical sense, that is to say
everything agreed with experimental results? Schrodinger originally thought
the world was deterministic because his equation was deterministic and so
the square of the absolute value of the wave function was telling us how
the electrical charge of an electron was "smeared out".  *

*But it only took Max Born a few days to realize naïvely assuming the
mathematical idea of the square of the absolute value could be translated
into the physical idea of a charge density wouldn't work because it
couldn't explain the sharply localized effects seen in experiments, but it
could work if you translated that mathematical concept, not to a physical
thing like a charge density but to another physical thing, a probability
density.*

*However Schrodinger's equation is deterministic, and so is charge density,
so why doesn't that work, why was it necessary to resort to probability at
all? Your only answer is because it is necessary. Many Worlds can provide a
much deeper explanation of why exactly that is, and I believe that is
something new.  *

*  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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