On 2/26/2025 8:41 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

    Yes and yes.  If the universe is infinite then the ratio of its
    size to that of any finite subset is infinite, no matter how large
    or small the subset is.  Imagine the infinite set of the
    integers.  Consider the finite subset
    {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,...,1e12}.  It's size is obviously 1e12. 
    Now shrink the universe by striking every tenth number. Your
    subset is now {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11,...,1e12-1} and it's size is
    1e12-1.  But the universe is still infinite.

    Brentc


I know enough about set theory to have easily generated what you write above. But math isn't physics. If the finite observable universe converges to a singularity, we have a hypothetical universe which is not physically possible, whether finite or infinite. So I am not sure how we can distingush between an infinite and finite universe. Set theory does not help. AG

If you can grasp that, why can't you grasp Cantor's theory of infinite sets.  I and others have said over and over that the singularity is a prediction of GR which assumes spacetime is a continuum.  Quantum mechanics almost certainly modifies the physics short of infinite density.

Brent

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