On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 6:38:54 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/7/2025 4:45 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 3:49:36 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 3/7/2025 7:09 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: My email response to Roger Penrose's speculations about the root of consciousness and computability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biUfMZ2dts8 Dr. Penrose; What you intuit exists, and seek, is called in Tibetan Buddhism "The Clear Light of the Void", and is described in the "Tibetan Book of the Dead". Additional information can be found in the Hindu scripture, "The Bhagavad Gita". I call it "The White Light" and experienced it once in a Christian context, momentarily. I don't know if it does computations. If you're blessed to experience it, you will have no doubt of its role as the source of consciousness. "Source" implies sufficiency. ??? AG A source of water provides water without anything else being required. A source of money provides money. A source of consciousness must provide consciousness. Yet there dozens of drugs that will eliminate it temporarily. Making pretty clear that the "source" is in brain chemistry. And you know that how? AG Have you not heard of anesthetics? *I've been administered anesthetics several times. Main effect; no experience of time. No White Light experience, not even dreams. AG* It was discovered in the ancient world several millennia ago by Hindu gurus and Yoga adepts. It qualifies to be called Occult or Hidden knowledge, and is essentially unknown to modern scientists and philosophers. As brain chemistry was unknown to those gurus. And the White Light is unknown to you. AG When you see a white light, be careful. It might be an oncoming train. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e080c85e-1edf-4911-9063-507f97621f40n%40googlegroups.com.