On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 6:38:54 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 3/7/2025 4:45 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 3:49:36 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 3/7/2025 7:09 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:

My email response to Roger Penrose's speculations about the root of 
consciousness and computability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biUfMZ2dts8

Dr. Penrose; What you intuit exists, and seek, is called in Tibetan 
Buddhism "The Clear Light of the Void", and is described in the "Tibetan 
Book of the Dead". Additional information can be found in the Hindu 
scripture, "The Bhagavad Gita". I call it "The White Light" and experienced 
it once in a Christian context, momentarily. I don't know if it does 
computations. If you're blessed to experience it, you will have no doubt of 
its role as the source of consciousness. 

"Source" implies sufficiency.  


??? AG

A source of water provides water without anything else being required.  A 
source of money provides money.  A source of consciousness must provide 
consciousness.

 

Yet there dozens of drugs that will eliminate it temporarily.  Making 
pretty clear that the "source" is in brain chemistry.


And you know that how? AG

Have you not heard of anesthetics?


*I've been administered anesthetics several times. Main effect; no 
experience of time. No White Light experience, not even dreams. AG*

It was discovered in the ancient world several millennia ago by Hindu gurus 
and Yoga adepts. It qualifies to be called Occult or Hidden knowledge, and 
is essentially unknown to modern scientists and philosophers.

As brain chemistry was unknown to those gurus.


And the White Light is unknown to you. AG

When you see a white light, be careful.  It might be an oncoming train.

Brent

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