* "Does it count as intelligence to understand a statement that is word salad?"*
Not to belittle entities that understand world salad, course it does. *Understanding* anything (as a mental act) requires intelligence. 2025年3月17日月曜日 0:15:57 UTC Brent Meeker: > Does it count as intelligence to understand a statement that is word salad? > > Brent > > > On 3/16/2025 1:37 AM, Mindey I. wrote: > > A while ago, I had entertained the idea of "list of ideas hardest to grasp > <https://www.halfbakery.com/idea/List_20of_20The_20Hardest_20Ideas_20To_20Grasp>" > > (halfbakery.com) that would define new thresholds for intelligence, a bit > like that existing between humans and animals: ideas that a human would > likely never in their lifetime understand, just like a dog would likely > never understand how a light bulb works. > > Today, the time has come when AI can be used to try to explore such ideas, > such lists. > > And so, I tried, and it resulted in claims of facts some of which were not > immediately obvious to me, but upon closer investigation appears to check > out, such as: > > - > > *"Events do not occur or exist; only the absence of specific events > exists and structures all reality."* > - > > *"Logic is not a method of reasoning; it is a physical substance > permeating reality that can be condensed, distilled, or destroyed."* > - > > *"Existence is fundamentally impossible; what appears to exist is > merely a persistent symmetry-breaking of impossibility."* > - > > *"Numbers are physically real beings with independent agency that > intentionally regulate relationships between what humans call objects."* > - > > *"Observation does not reduce uncertainty; rather, uncertainty itself > observes events into definite states."* > - > > *"Information does not convey meaning; it consumes meaning as a > resource to maintain its own stability."* > - > > *"Space is not dimensional; it is purely emotional, and distance is > measured only by changes in emotional states."* > - > > *"Identity is not a persistent feature of reality but an infectious > conceptual contagion spreading across unrelated structures."* > - > > *"Time never passes; it grows continuously outward in every direction > simultaneously, filling reality rather than flowing through it."* > - > > *"Cause and effect are illusions; reality consists entirely of > unrelated patterns imitating relationships without genuine connection."* > > I'm going to try to formalize them later, but here is my experiment: > https://chatgpt.com/share/67d686e8-3174-800e-b652-8c5d2b145294 > > I wonder, what would you discover, if you were to entertain the idea of > searching for facts about the nature of reality, that are as inexplicable > to humans, as the fact how a light bulb, or a computer screen works is > inexplicable to dogs? Where could our understanding of the universe and > capabilities lead to? What new science could we discover? > > Mindey > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e387432c-8714-4e84-9fad-0f39758ab45fn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e387432c-8714-4e84-9fad-0f39758ab45fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/939f0f47-fb6c-4743-986b-3d3050209926n%40googlegroups.com.
