On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:28 +0200, guenther wrote: > > That's how it is designed to be.
This is something recent then. This behaviour did not use to exist. > Notice that you only set Status Junk in your filter. You do not move the > mail. And yet the junk marked mail is *not* being displayed in Inbox, > but rather in the Junk folder. Right. I understand that. > Evolutions Junk folder (the one with a special icon) is not a physical > folder, but a vFolder. I understand this. > That means it is like a search over all your > folders. Just like Trash. Ahhh. I believe Junk used to only be applied to your INBOX. It think this is the behaviour that has changed. > The Junk folder shows all mails marked as junk. The Trash folder shows > all mails marked for deletion. Mails are not moved for neither of them. > Those vFolders show the mails with special flags, whereas the mails > themselfs still are physically located in their source folders. (For > "deleted" mails you can verify this by unchecking View / Hide Deleted > Messages.) Yes, I do understand all of this. I know exactly what the problem is, just not how to best deal with it. I don't want the Junk vFolder to look in a particular folder. Or any folders other than INBOX if that makes it any easier. > Now if you "move" a message out of your Junk folder to any other folder, > they still will be displayed in Junk, cause they still got the "Junk" > status assigned... This is the behaviour that is new. > I'm not entirely sure on how to make this work as you'd like. This sure > depends on what you actually want and your account settings. Is this > IMAP or POP3? IMAP. > As your "Mail Server" (you didn't mention anything else) runs > SpamAssassin and marks mails, you don't need the built-in Junk feature > in Evo anyway. I do. I do want the Junk folder which I can peruse from time to time for false positives. And I want to be able to "Not Junk" them so that sa-learn can be taught it was not junk. > Cause manually marking mails falsely tagged as Junk or > non-Junk by SA on your Mail Server most likely will *not* do anything > but setting this flag. Right, but I do want to close the loop and be able to tell sa-learn that something was not junk. > The big advantage of learning these manually > marked mails (training your Bayes DB) does not work. Unless your Mail > Server happens to be the very same machine as your workstation... No. I have a "customized" sa-learn which is just a front-end to an "ssh mailserver sa-learn ..." so that sa-learn is run on the actual mail server, not the local client. Indeed, this single sa-learn wrapper is able to run whatever the "this is not spam" command is on multiple mail servers. It looks at the X-Evolution-Source to decide what command to run on what node to learn something is not junk. > Thus you simply could disable any Junk filters (you probably did not > enable this anyway) and simply change your existing custom filter: > > Instead of setting the "Junk" status for mails identified as junk by > your mail server you could just move those mails to a physical folder. > Which probably is what you intended in the first place anyway. It's not actually. The behaviour (the Junk vFolder) is exactly the behaviour I want. I just don't want it looking at all of my folders, just my INBOX. I appreciate all of your thoughts and ideas on this though. Any more would be much appreciated. b. -- My other computer is your Microsoft Windows server. Brian J. Murrell
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