On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 21:34 +0100, guenther wrote: > > > The question is not whether you can use the buttons. Yes, they are > > > always enabled and do "something". > > > > > > The problem is when you want to use it to learn ham. Apparently it was > > > not designed for that, it looks like it was designed to undo a previous > > > "junk"-button-press, because only then something actually happens, being > > > the bayes database being updated. If you push "not junk" on a random > > > message, the message doesn't get learned as "ham". > > > > So this is a big issue, currently on HEAD, we have either the "Junk" or > > the "Not Junk" button, based on wether the messages has been marked junk > > or not. We actually needs to discuss this further. Am CCing Srini for > > his comments on this. > > Revert that commit immediately. > There is no issue in reverting it, but why do we want a 'All the time disabled - Not Junk' button on toolbar. It is enabled just in Junk Folder. If the junk implementation extends learning not-junk, then it would make sense.
> This is a bad idea. Really. All you gain is a few pixels in the toolbar. > But if this UI change is introduced in 2.6, it will be harder for the > developers and confusing to the users to get the other button in again. > > Questions regarding "Junk filtering not working" majorly impacted by a > badly (if at all) trained Bayes are common these days. To make SA more > effective, the user needs to train Bayes. So there *must* be a way to > train it. The user has to be able to make SA learn *any* mail marked as > either Ham or Spam previously. > > Automatic learning is *not* done for any mail. The score has to be above > (or lower than) a threshold, which is way more extreme than the "spam > limit". > > For Bayes to kick in SA needs to be trained 200 Spam and Ham *each*. > > These buttons should not be "mark as" Ham/Spam, but "learn as" Ham/Spam. > > ...guenther > > _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
