On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 15:03 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> Peter and Brian: I think you should reserve your angry complaints to
> your resellers, if any.

Huh?

> Brian: Your bug report 582945, is one that requires quite a bit of
> work just to reproduce

Not at all.  Simply subscribe to a bunch of news groups at gmane.  Not
that difficult.

> You say it only affects users with
> hundreds of thousands of mails in their inboxes?

I'm not sure where the usability tipping point is, but let's say it is a
few hundred thousand.

> Would you agree that
> most people doesn't have several hundred thousand mails in their
> inboxes, even the ones that use email on a regular basis?

Sure, any that don't use evolution for NNTP as well.

> Further, you complain about having reported this bug more than a month
> ago and that nothing has happened. However, look at your own bug
> report; you suggest that the developer subscribe to a lot of
> mailinglists and just build himself a large mailbox in order to
> reproduce this "sluggish behaviour"

Right.  As I said, not very difficult at all, for anyone interested in
trying to reproduce it.

> You would have to subscribe to
> some fairly heavy loaded mailinglists for your inbox to grow to 418k
> messages in a month, wouldn't you?

No.  These are newsgroups, not mailing lists.  You subscribe to a group
and instantly get the many (tens or hundreds of) thousands of messages
that have ever been posted to the list in your summary database.

Probably a single subscription to lkml (which I tried once but had to
manually remove because it made evo *completely* unusable) would reveal
the problems, but I would suggest creeping up to that kind of capacity
with just subscribing a number of groups in the tens of thousands
counts.

> And then the bug hunt is supposed
> to begin.

For somebody that has worked the vfolder code, I'd imagine finding the
hogs would not be terribly difficult.  Oprofile would probably be
extremely useful here.

> I think your expectations are a bit
> high, don't you?

Look.  I don't need your sarcasm.  I simply asked if the scalability
issues would be fixed by the next release, highlighting a possible
usability issue.

> Oh, and by the way:
> 
> [snip] "...aggregates all of my newsgroups says there are 418389 messages in 
> it
> with 418344 unread (i.e. only 5 unread messages -- yeah right).  However
> I know the difference bet..." [snip]
> 
> This suggests to me like you may have a buggy calculator too, or something.

Oops.  It was 50 instead of 5.  Dude.  I misread a single order of
magnitude while the real difference should be 2 or 3 orders of magnitude
different.  Why are you splitting hairs here?  Do you really think this
is constructive?

b.

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