On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:10 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 18:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 23:10 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > I thought we were going the other way now, as you proposed I.e.
> > > turning
> > > > Reply To List into Reply To All when no list headers are detected.
> > > 
> > > Remember, there are three different things which are affected...
> > > 
> > > 1. For the *keystroke* (Ctrl-L): What's the point? If you mean
> > >    Ctrl-Shift-R, why not just press that instead?
> > 
> > Because that's not what I mean. I mean Ctrl-L and Shift-Ctrl-R is a
> > fallback, not the other way round. Every time I've replied to one of
> > your messages in this thread I've automatically hit Ctrl-L and it hasn't
> > worked, so I've had to pause and hit Shift-Ctrl-R. That's because you
> > aren't using the List-* headers, which I find very annoying since it
> > does work most of the time on this list. If Ctrl-L just worked I
> > wouldn't bother about it much.
> 
> I think that's perhaps because you're replying to the message you
> receive directly, not the message you receive from the list? Obviously
> the *direct* message doesn't have any List-* headers.
> 
> In my case, the direct copy of the message arrives (almost instantly) in
> my inbox while the list copy arrives (some time later) in my list
> folder. Ctrl-L would work on the latter, but obviously not on the
> former.

I'm only receiving the direct copy and I'm not entirely sure why. Given
that the direct and list versions of the message are necessarily
different in their headers, I don't know if Mailman regards them as
duplicates or not.

IOW this exchange is actually a personal conversation which is being
copied to the list. If we were using Ctrl-L that would not be the case.

> > > 2. For the *menu item* in the Message menu, it'd just be confusing. At
> > >    the moment there is already a 'Reply to All' menu item, and a
> > > 'Reply to List' item which may be greyed out. Turning the latter into
> > > a duplicate 'Reply to All' menu item would be wrong.
> > 
> > It wouldn't be a duplicate since it would have its own shortcut.
> 
> There would be two items in the 'Message' menu which are both labelled
> 'Reply to All'. Yes, they'd have separate shortcuts. I'll skip the
> philosophical discussion about whether they're duplicates of each
> other :)
> 
> >  In fact it could even say Reply To List.
> 
> In that case, the one-line patch I posted earlier (to just always enable
> the Reply-to-list option) would suffice, surely?

If it does what we've been saying then I guess so. I've not been reading
code or recompiling Evo to check. I guess it's up to Matthew if he wants
to accept the patch.

I'm still holding out for the Reply To Author action of course :-)

poc

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