On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 09:23 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: 
> > That's an option of course, but I'm so used to have certain programs,
> > the ones always open, available in the systray it's hard to adapt to a
> > new way of doing it. Skype, xchat, truecrypt, dropbox and Opera works
> > like that. It would be really great if Evo had that option as well since
> > it it a program most users have open at all times like the ones
> > mentioned above.
> I may be missing something here, but I was under the impression that the
> systray was a container to hold things for notifying you of an event -

+1

> i.e. things that ran in the background as a (userland) daemon.  It's not
> a container to hold gui programs while you want them out of the way.

Exactly that is what a dock is for; and several docks are available for
GNOME - beyond the normal window-list applet (which I'll admit can get
cumbersome).

> The only one of those progs you mention that are doing the "wrong" thing
> is Opera - all the rest are hanging around waiting for an external
> event.

+1

> This may be a bit of the mark, but if you want a program to be hanging
> around running but not visible, why not, err, minimise it.  Then all you
> have to do is to click on the little rectangle in the window list
> applet. 

Or the [illuminated] icon in the dock.

> What's more, if you leave Evo running in a minimised state, then another
> copy of Evo starts up virtually immediately without going through all
> the initial checks for new mail. 

+1  Also, isn't there an evo quick-start applet or something?  There was
once upon a time [I have evolution just set to automatically start when
my session begins].

> I have a launcher for Evo in the top
> bar of my window - the first click on there will launch Evo, subsequent
> clicks will create a new window that is ready for use straight away.
> Why is "minimise to systray" necessary?

It is definitely frown upon by the GNOME PTBs for just the reasons
described.

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